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1st - I'm sorry for starting so many threads. The people on this forum are the only ones I trust.
2nd - Thank you for helping out.

3rd and main question - how bad is limping K2s in mp if you're stronger than most of the table, and 75% sure it will limp around? How about A6s? 45s?

I'm having some issues figuring out how wide I can open profitably?

Is it a coincidence that when I play my tightest that I win more, and more often?

The game seems much more simple to me opening a tighter range? Given I played all 6max online, and live is really my only FR experience?

Thank you all!

1st - I'm sorry for starting so many threads. The people on this forum are the only ones I trust.
2nd - Thank you for helping out.

3rd and main question - how bad is limping K2s in mp if you're stronger than most of the table, and 75% sure it will limp around? How about A6s? 45s?

I would probably only limp the suited Ace from MP. You cooler ppl a lot more than you get coolered. I would limp all those hands on the btn if there were like 3+ limpers before me. If there were 1 or 2 limpers I might just raise and try to take it down preflop or on the flop.

I'm having some issues figuring out how wide I can open profitably?

Is it a coincidence that when I play my tightest that I win more, and more often?

if this is true, then just play tight.

On the BTN i would limp suited connecters, suited aces, suited one gappers, pocket pairs, hands like K9s. MP would limp pockets pairs, maybe high suited aces like A8-T some of the time depending on table dynamics, and sometimes higher suited connecters like 89s. From MP i would probably limp every other time i get one of these hands (50% of the time). K2s is way too loose in MP.

I'll wait for a few more responses before I declare I'm playing WAY too loose.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/170/live-low-stakes-nl/starting-hands-utg-reader-beware-1213848/index13.html

What's everyone think of the beginning of this thread? (The question of how/if you should open small pocket pairs?)

recognize game flow. be self aware. be aware of others. in a live game there is A LOT going on. And yes as a default tight is right. Stack size, player types, who is good/bad, who is on tilt, who is adjusting and how. Whats your image? You been winning loosing? ect. good luck.

I agree with micsquab!

K2s can be a big money maker against some players and a big loser against others.
The real key is identifying which players' you should open up against.
I usually start out playing a default strategy with well defined opening ranges by position and then adjust depending on player types, stack sizes, image, etc..

I rarely limp 1st in, so if I'm in Late MP and it's folded to me and I decide it's worthwhile to play K2s then I would usually just raise.

First, if I'm playing hand and I'm in position - and I usually am - I'm probably raising. Suited King-rag is on the hands which I would limp with however. But this depends on a lot of things. The players who have already limped, the likelihood of someone behind me raising, stack sizes etc.

If you have A5s and you're 300BB+ deep effectively, you should raise for definite. But 100BB I'm probably just limping 1bb if I think I can see a cheap flop.

On the Button, I would be raising suited connectors vs weak players. I don't think people realize how profitable it is to be last to act in live poker. Most players don't float, or check-raise bluff. You can have a £50 pot, bet £12, and watch everyone fold. Simples game.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/170/live-low-stakes-nl/starting-hands-utg-reader-beware-1213848/index13.html

What's everyone think of the beginning of this thread? (The question of how/if you should open small pocket pairs?)

Most of the garbage and bad advice in that thread are part of the reasons why I barely go on 2p2 anymore.

There's people trying to explain why it's wrong to play PPs in EP. Honestly I think you could ONLY play PPs live, and show a profit (granted it's not ideal for your game, but I think it's totally possible).

With small PPs set over set isn't something you should be afraid of. It's going to happen occasionally, but it's so infrequent the money you make set mining is going to far outweigh what you give away getting coolered.

With my smaller PPs I like to see a cheap flop. My UTG/EP open range is JJ+,AKs,but I'll limp virtually any PP.

I think raising hands like AJo UTG are going to cause you to really hemorrhage money. As you start playing live more, you're going to see people limp AQ,AK a LOT.

Now as far as other hands go I definitely have a limping range.
Say i'm in MP with 9/10s:
if it folds to me, it's a fold.
If there's a couple callers, it's probably going to be a call.
If there's a raise ( and we're both not deep) it's a fold.
Now if I'm in LP with the same hand and there's 1 or 2 limpers it's probably a raise.

I think you can really keep a similar range to your 6 max game, the main exception is going to be limping and overlimping. While online a certain spot would definitely be a raise/3bet, live it's going to be an overcall.
Edit:
I definitely keep a tight up front, and MP range. I think you can stay tight early/mid and really open up late, and you'll be in good shape.

In live poker, if I look at the first card in EP, and it is smaller than a 9, I toss the hand often without even looking at the what card the other card is.

In live poker, if I look at the first card in EP, and it is smaller than a 9, I toss the hand often without even looking at the what card the other card is.

I feel like this is a leak. There's definitely going to be spots to play smaller pp from that position sometimes.

k - open limp in if it's a pretty passive table dynamic?

k - open limp in if it's a pretty passive table dynamic?

yeah pretty much. Like if nobody is raising pre but are paying off like TPNK for 3 streets limping small PP can be really good.

Another time is if you look left and see like a few people going to fold their hand, you can make a open with all pp in this case.

I'm really starting to appreciate how "optimal" can be two so different things. Playing within a set of "rules" may be profitable but it's a crutch, and the longer you use it the harder it can become to play without it.

I think that's especially the case with live poker.