Live Poker Poker Forums

1/2 nl 77 utg+1

or track by Email or RSS


ccheiden

Avatar for ccheiden

467 posts
Joined 06/2009

Villain is tight, aggressive, covers me.

120bb deep.

Hero UTG+1 77 open to 12

4 calls.

Flop (55) J97hh Hero bets 30, villain calls.
Turn (115) 3h Hero checks, villain bets 40, hero calls.
River (195) 8c Hero checks, villain bets 50, hero ?.

Posted 11 months ago

T_roy

Avatar for T_roy

44 posts
Joined 11/2010

Call but man you gotta pot flop and bet fold turn. You're losing wayyyyy to much value. The heart shouldn't scare you that much. You will still get tons of value from worse.

Posted 11 months ago

Tech9ines

Avatar for Tech9ines

378 posts
Joined 03/2011

def pot flop into MW pot, missed value and obviously to protect ur hand from this board runout

Posted 11 months ago

TecmoSuperBowl

Avatar for TecmoSuperBowl

Tribe Leader
5546 posts
Joined 01/2009

This board is very wet so there is plenty of value to be had by bombing it on the flop. Their ranges are inelastic for the most part, meaning they are either folding or calling, and your bet size (unless you shove) doesn't really matter for the most part, meaning we want to make it really big. This is the same reason we don't want to bluff cbet in this spot and we should just give up with our air.

As for the turn, check/calling puts us in an awkward position, not to mention it caps our range and basically screams, "I don't have the flush." Ideally, we'd like to bet for value on the turn against non-flush hands, disguise our range, and also give ourselves an opportunity to bet/fold should they come over the top.

As played, we kind of opened the door to let villain bluff us and checking doesn't help us narrow his range. If we bet turn and only get called, then we might even be able to go for thin value on the river, or check/fold river as he will likely check back the river with all non-flush made hands since most live players don't valuebet the river well.

Posted 11 months ago

ccheiden

Avatar for ccheiden

467 posts
Joined 06/2009

Thank you Tecmo for the detailed response. I agree with everything you said. Afterwards I thought about bet/folding, actually I thought about it at the time but disregarded it because I had been losing every pot so I lost all of my confidence.

And definitely bet more on the flop! Smile

Thanks!

Posted 11 months ago

euEra

Avatar for euEra

682 posts
Joined 08/2010

Bet on flop needs to be larger, pot imo, and you need to barrel the turn. If you didnt check to induce because you feel a weaker hand would fold to a turn barrel (barrelling is more +EV) then your check is very bad and you turn your hand pretty much face up (non flush draw). I heart draw is a small part of villians flop calling range so you shouldnt be affraid.

Posted 11 months ago

ccheiden

Avatar for ccheiden

467 posts
Joined 06/2009

Thank-you, this would have been my normal thought pattern. But my confidence was really lacking and I had monsters under my bed.

Posted 11 months ago

Tech9ines

Avatar for Tech9ines

378 posts
Joined 03/2011

But my confidence was really lacking and I had monsters under my bed.



'The Nuts' in your face, time and time again will do that to you Undecided

Omfg.........OMFG,............OMYFinGGG

i hate the feeling puts butterflies in my stomach

Posted 11 months ago

ccheiden

Avatar for ccheiden

467 posts
Joined 06/2009

Hahahaha, I know every hand it's different and that's what helps me through it. I just remember that I could get the nuts this time. but lately that hasn't been the case. The worst part of it is that you start questioning EVERY decision you're making.

Posted 11 months ago




HomePoker ForumsLive Poker → 1/2 nl 77 utg+1