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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by DeathDonkey (High Stakes)

Once again excellent video DD. You mentioned that next season you would be doing a triple drawa series (I don't even know what triple draw is), and that after LHE triple draw was your second best game.

Some time back you started playing no limit and you made some videos which were very good about the transistion to no limit, do you still play no limit and if not why not?

I would have thought with your hand reading skills, you would soon be crushing the no limit games. I remember Stox trader mentioning in a video ages ago, that when he started playing no limit (he started no limit because he was worried about good high stakes limit games drying up), that his hand reading enabled him to beat the small no limit games without him having to do much no limit studying.

Oh man that was the first thing I thought of when I saw the series title and now I find I'm right??? What the hell is it with Magic the Gathering and Poker players

TheBryce used to play it I believe, now I find out DD used to play it. (Along with the obvious ones like Dave Williams, Noah Boeken, Gabreil Nassif etc)

Well at least that's one thing in common I've had with the greats (3rd in the English Nats in 2006...weeeeee, probably equivalent to a US PTQ Top 8 finsh but work with me here)

Great Series DeathDonkey and nice finale

...and I suggest "Wrath of God" or "Armaggeddon" as the next series title </geek>

Great series DD. Although I don't wish for you to run bad, this last video is inspiring in that you kept your composure despite the fact that the deck really broke against you this session.

And wow, I can't wait for the triple draw series!! I think unique content like the upcoming TD series, combined with your great coverage of the traditional games like NLHE and LHE, are what makes DC top notch.

BTW, as far as the content of the current video, I disagree with your assertion that calling two cold in the BB with KTo is a big mistake. In fact, I think folding is probably the worst option in these games. First, KTo actually dominates more hands in the button's opening range than it is dominated by. And yes, your hand range to 3-bet is stronger than KTo, but because of the aggressive nature of SB resteals in the 15/30 game, the threat of domination is somewhat diminished. Getting 7-to-2 (which could become 9-to-3) odds to see a flop and having pretty good relative position, calling is perfectly reasonable. Capping is okay too and depends on the chances button will fold for two back, your image (and in particular your chance of dragging the pot when everyone misses after fourth street), and your ability to play the hand postflop.

1)Unless the money at this level is totally meaningless to you,
you have concured TILT.
2)You alway mention "Ace High" as your bluffing target, is that because pairs are not folding.
3)I enjoyed you admitting you could not assign a range.
4)Strength of my hand as it pertains to my range is an interesting concept.
5)A "Metagame call"....we are beat but call anyway.
6)55:00 Us low limit players see this all the time, a clear timing tell, I had him on T's full, ended up being 77's full.

I am sad to hear you will not be doing limit next season,
But I will follow into triple draw.
I have an advantage in triple draw that I did not have in limit.
I have no bad habits to break.

please consider posting some limit somewhere during the next 8 weeks, either in members vids,
or as a stand alone, I NEED MY DD FIX.

Really enjoyed the series. I learn the most from your limit videos because your hand discussions are very concise and helpful for actual play. I found this 2-table video much easier to follow than the 4 tabling videos - the discussion flowed a lot better.

I want another heads up series DD! But I'm looking forward to learning triple draw as well .

Oh sweet.
I am much more a fan of 1 and 2 table vids than 4 as well.

Even in your 1 table vids you give so much info I have to watch several times ;P

xrosswind: I play a little NL when bored, I am a big winner at 200 NL and around breakeven in the typical 400 NL in my experience. I do a poor job of improving in some ways, I would rather play a bunch than watch our videos in truth, and so I definitely shoot myself in the foot with speed of learning. That said, I am a limit player and I'm happy with that for the most part.

Boomer, I wasn't a tourney competition level player or anything, just got into it in high school long before I found poker, I have a few thousand cards laying around somewhere.

Sweetjazz, thanks a ton for the compliments about our video selection, I think the triple draw will be a ton of fun for me and my guest Executive Producer student!

You are definitey right about the KTo hand (I seem to say this every week to your comments), I overstated how bad it was but I definitely believe his play is indicative of other mistakes as most players in that game would cap or fold a lot of hands there hoping to drive out the button.

Mickey, 1) I guess I am a little surprised about the ease of which you guys must tilt I only lost around 45 bets during the session, which isn't much fun, but hardly surprising for the aggressiveness of those games. I routinely have 100 bb swings during my 15/30 sessions without hardly noticing, just takes practice!
2) Yeah, even ace high is usually not folding, that's why its so easy to value bet in these games.

Hope you enjoy the triple draw, I'll endeavor to do a Ghost hold'em vid or two.

-DeathDonkey

@4:30 The villain (Castelo) who you think is a multi tabling tag regular in this game opens from the HJ, hero three bets with Kd Kh, only villain calls.

Villain checks and calls flop and turn, then donk bets river, on a board of.
2s 3d 8s 9h Qs, and hero raises.

DD, you said that you thought it was unlikely villain had JT because you expected him to have check raised the turn with that as a semi bluff, is that why you thought he did not have a flush too?

If this hand was at a low limit say 1/2 to 3/6 and villain was more or less unknown would you still raise the river?

@5:30 Hero open raises Kd Jd in HJ, and unknown villain in CO three bets, only hero calls.

Hero checks and calls flop and turn on a board of 8d 3c 3h Qd, and makes the following comments.

"If I make a flush on the river I will check raise, and if I hit king or jack I will bet for value".

Are these the reasons for the different lines with these hands.

If you hit a king or jack, you want to bet to avoid villain checking behind with Ace high, but does that also mean you will call if villain raises your donk bet, I assume it does. You do not want to try for a check raise, because if villain does bet the river it is quite likely to be with a hand better than heros, and heros hand with either a pair of kings or jacks is not strong enough to check raise, so check calling the river with a king or jack is going to be less profitable than donk betting and calling when villain sometimes raises, but will often call with ace high.

If you hit a flush however, your hand now is strong enough to raise when villain bets the river after being checked to.

KK hand: yes the general level of aggression in these games is such that I would not expect a flopped draw to passively check/call twice (precisely why I sometimes advocate this line especially the nut flush draw that can call down unimproved), and even if I am wrong about his turn play with JT the number of Qx hands crushes the number of JT hands and he will always pay off a raise. I can probably fold to a 3 bet but I doubt I would vs this guy (too aggro, too unknown, bad metagame, etc).

I think you pretty much summed up my thoughts on the K J hand well. There are also a bunch of pocket pair hands that might check behind a king river but will bet a diamond river and call a raise.

-DeathDonkey

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on the right table, what do you mean when you say a cheap showdown?

on the right table, what do you mean when you say a cheap showdown?

I meant he might not even raise better Ax hands and make my life difficult with a tough decision whether to pay off or not.

ok that makes sense, i think i asked because it was kind of a situation where the same goes in either way, but you can't get bluffed by check calling? guess there is value in betting.

i finished watching the video today, and made two more comments but apparently i didn't submit them right... dont think its worth it to rewatch so i can comment/ask again, but now that i know you will reply quickly to messages i wont hesitate to do so on future videos.

i actually just joined dc this past week, having been a member for a long time of a now wasteland of a coaching site, and i can already tell its much much better here.

Thanks for the kind comments bmorgan and welcome, sometimes I have to re-watch a bit of the video to see what I said but yeah I always try to reply to questions.