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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by DeathDonkey (Mid Stakes)

In general i dont think this is that good of an idea. In theory sure, but youre asking for him to fold a king getting like 9:1, not to mention that that particular river just smacks his entire semibluffing range.

I actually think a bluff raise there isn't too bad against a good player, since they will be less scared to value bet Kx, and our hand is close to the ideal candidate (not quite good enough to call down). but you are right that in practice people have it a lot and call a lot

I dont open A8o utg and rarely A9o, and if i did open A9o it would be for almost the sole purpose of playing a pot against either of the blinds, in which case i wouldnt fold even if im likely to be dominated. Would probably play pretty cautiosly.

I'd probably fold A9o for 2 more and call with QJ, but I think its splitting hairs, I think its fine if you never fold for 2 more with any UTG range hands, but that you sometimes have to do it in full ring or when you open from later position against passive type of players who 3 bet and cap and you have like K7o and stuff

Not sure if you misread the action or what, but if its the hand on the river i defended for 1 raise with 34s vs utg raise and an aggro player iso`ed in late position, in which case i would play tons of suited and connected hands. 85o would be right on the cusp i guess, i would always fold 84o and always call 86o, but given that i know the raiser to be very aggressive and sd bound and people who limp utg ususally arent that good, i dont have a problem defending. Also the utg player had shown to be pretty passive and honest so far, meaning i could probably use my relative position and shut him out of the flops i liked with a cr, also knowing that the preflop raiser always c-bets 3handed.

I think he was asking about completing from the small blind with 85o when there was a limper...I'd always complete it in 1:2 structure, limpers are bad at poker, we want to play pots with them, 85o isn't much but its not total trash either

Really good posts on the other questions psychobingo, I agree with them 100%

I actually think a bluff raise there isn't too bad against a good player, since they will be less scared to value bet Kx, and our hand is close to the ideal candidate (not quite good enough to call down). but you are right that in practice people have it a lot and call a lot

Well yeah against a top mid/highstakes player that i respect and that i feel share that respect for my game i could see myself trying to raise as this would be pretty much the exact bottom of my calldown range (except for maybe A10 and possibly 99 against some people), and against this type of player we can expect him to have something like AK and AA since a good bit of grinders tend to not 3bet those from the BB against early position opens, but against this player who i have marked as not very good and with little history i just see it as wasting two bets when all the draws comes in. Theres something else to consider too, my range for bet-calling and just calling the turn then to raise this particular river is pretty damn narrow, its looking something like KJ, JJ, weak ace high flushdraws and maybe 99. Probably raising every Qx combo, AA/AJ/1010 etc simply because the board is super wet and since its highcardheavy and i raised in early position and he still checkraises, im expecting him to either have good enough to pay off or have a draw, in either case i would want to get that raise in on the turn.

I'd probably fold A9o for 2 more and call with QJ, but I think its splitting hairs, I think its fine if you never fold for 2 more with any UTG range hands, but that you sometimes have to do it in full ring or when you open from later position against passive type of players who 3 bet and cap and you have like K7o and stuff

I also think it has to be pretty close either way, but if i opened A9o utg it probably had something to do with one of the blinds in which case i still would want to be in there even though its not looking stellar when it gets capped. Obviously the scenario you describe i sometimes fold, especially weak Ax and Kx hands against tighter players, but tbh its not really too often.

I think he was asking about completing from the small blind with 85o when there was a limper...I'd always complete it in 1:2 structure, limpers are bad at poker, we want to play pots with them, 85o isn't much but its not total trash either

Yeah totally agree with this. Could consider folding it in say a 5-10 game with 2-5 blind structure, but even then i think i would want to see a flop with the limper.

nice vid

nice vid

+1

I almost feel out of touch watching this stuff

Its been a long time since i`ve played lhe myself, not really sure if im in touch myself: anymore. Turned into a losing player..

very good vid

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Even if we can "exploit" our opponent by fast playing the flop, I'm not sure that makes us the most money against his range.

If I give villain a range of AJs+, AQo+,KQs & 99+ and assume he puts in more action with AJ+ when we raise the flop, villain still has about 2/3 of his range that we prefer to induce another turn barrel from.

Also, when we raise the flop, villain generally puts in between 3.5-4BB on the flop & turn (either B/3-b flop B/C or B/C flop C/R/C) with his big hands. However, if we delay to the turn, villain actually will probably put in about 4.5BB with almost his same value range (B flop B/3-b/C).

Given all this, I think delaying to the turn is actually the much more +EV spot given his range and how he plays it post.

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I also like just Ch/Folding the flop with 85 for all the reason DD mentions. I think if we call the flop, it has to be with the intention of calling down on blank turn/rivers because our read of the BB is he can have a lot of air/draws. I don't think very many opponents bet this flop, then give up on a brick turn once they are heads up in position.

I dont care that much for bluffraising this board. Im going to be semibluffraising alot of my 1 spade hands on the flop and alot of my pairs as well, and when some passive straight forward guy bets twice on this kind of board im pretty happy just to let him have it. If youre gonna bluffraise every single time the board gets scary, its going to get very expensive and get you very little credit and it would make your bluffcatching range almost equal to nothing.

I think we probably should have a bluffing range in this spot on the turn, although I agree we shouldn't be bluffing this board too often. Even just theoretically, I'm trying to come up with an ideal hand to bluff this turn. I don't think I have a hand worse than bottom pair on this turn after I call the flop. I guess Q2-A2 might be ideal bluffing candidates? given we may improve to TP and be good a small % on the river

My Problem with call call fold is that SB might make a thin Vbet oop with sth like 88-JJ and makes us fold a better hand.
Additionally he limped before so he might not be a rational player so I dislike folding KK. Or maybe I'm jus ta SD-Monkey

(Time 31:58 ) I tend to agree with this. I like the call call fold line much more with say 99-TT.