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Id just call the flop instead of cr personally. I dont think our hand is that good and theres quite a few turns we cant vbet. Not sure what hes doing with 55

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Id just call the flop instead of cr personally. I dont think our hand is that good and theres quite a few turns we cant vbet. Not sure what hes doing with 55

You sure? He has an incredibly wide 3betting range and hes cbetting no less than 100% of that range. And the fish in the bb also has a super wide range. Nobody knows what hes doing with 55

You sure? He has an incredibly wide 3betting range and hes cbetting no less than 100% of that range. And the fish in the bb also has a super wide range. Nobody knows what hes doing with 55

I probably would have not open raised 7 high preflop then, have to adjust a bit to the seat you are in

I probably would have not open raised 7 high preflop then, have to adjust a bit to the seat you are in

Did i solely because of both blinds beeing bad, the bb beeing extremely bad. You dont think that weighs up for it?

You sure? He has an incredibly wide 3betting range and hes cbetting no less than 100% of that range. And the fish in the bb also has a super wide range. Nobody knows what hes doing with 55

I mean, we have 3rd pair and any paint turn/riv card is potentially bad for us. We are behind BTN a reasonable % of the time and if BB is a passive fish, we are behind him some % of the time too.

I just think our equity probably isnt as good as we think and looking fwd to the rest of the hand, i think its slightly better to c/c and see, I dont think cr is bad as such, i just think cc is better

Did i solely because of both blinds beeing bad, the bb beeing extremely bad. You dont think that weighs up for it?

I think close, but if he 3 bets way too much then I'd still just fold and prefer to have hands that are a bit high card oriented. If I normally am stealing lets say 30% from CO I'd tone it down to 25% or something.

I mean, we have 3rd pair and any paint turn/riv card is potentially bad for us. We are behind BTN a reasonable % of the time and if BB is a passive fish, we are behind him some % of the time too.

I just think our equity probably isnt as good as we think and looking fwd to the rest of the hand, i think its slightly better to c/c and see, I dont think cr is bad as such, i just think cc is better

Yes any paint will be somewhat bad for us, but everything else i`m looking to bet twice for value and expect to get called alot of the time by the button. Also, pay no mind to the fish in the bb. Hes bad enough that he still can have Q2s, stuff like that. And he`s got a bad case of fps so i expect i can bet the turn and check back the rivers that look somewhat scary, fwiw he showed up with the straight in this hand

I think close, but if he 3 bets way too much then I'd still just fold and prefer to have hands that are a bit high card oriented. If I normally am stealing lets say 30% from CO I'd tone it down to 25% or something.

I def steal less with this player type on the button, but i think with the poorness of the blinds and in the event that i get 3bet i get to play a (at minimum) 3way 3bet pot with good relative position with a hand thats easy to play postflop. Fwiw i cut down alot more on my weak Ax hands with this setup, id rather have hands like this. Hope thats not counterintuitive.

Seems ok, weak Ax are very hard to play OOP. We are probably debating over a very small point, just thought I'd mention the possibility. I agree w deepsquat that I prefer a c/c by a slight bit unless he takes a lot of free cards on turn

Thats fine, enough small points and you get something big out of it The reason why i like checkraising is because i can keep betting on any card besides a jack and be happy about it, but if i just call the flop some of the time its gonna be checked through and i really dont want that with this hand. And he has every single Ax combo, none of which will fold if the board blanks out, which is a good argument to keep take and keep the lead i feel.

If the BB is of the sticky-passive fish type (as described) I don't think stealing with low offsuit connectors is going to be very profitable (or pleasant) in this setup. Even the times you get past BTN and hu with BB you very often find yourself in a dark tunnel bluff.

If the BB is of the sticky-passive fish type (as described) I don't think stealing with low offsuit connectors is going to be very profitable (or pleasant) in this setup. Even the times you get past BTN and hu with BB you very often find yourself in a dark tunnel bluff.

depends on how low. In general you should be raising more buttons with a fishy bb even if he is loose preflop and postflop.

If the BB is of the sticky-passive fish type (as described) I don't think stealing with low offsuit connectors is going to be very profitable (or pleasant) in this setup. Even the times you get past BTN and hu with BB you very often find yourself in a dark tunnel bluff.

Yeah i also disagree with this. In general these players have tendencies which are pretty easy to identify, dont have to turn my hand into 3barrel bluffs every time, and i can valuebet to infinity.

depends on how low. In general you should be raising more buttons with a fishy bb even if he is loose preflop and postflop.

I tried (and apparently failed) to refer to the situation OP described, not being on the button. FWIW, against a sticky-passive I'd still rather expand my button stealing range towards paint-small combos than go any lower in the connectors than 76o.

Hand against multitabling reg that used to play higher: I raise co 67s, he 3! btn, bb is superfish and coldcalls i call. T86rainbow i cr both call. Turn 7, i bet btn raise fish coldcall i call. River 8, checks around.
Btn has 55, quality? And hes a pretty big winner id assume. This is so standard spew too

meh, not that hard to come up with some scenarios where raising turn beats folding turn. (ofc calling is out the question) But with a superfish behind i dont like it that much either.

I also wouldnt c/r flop in your spot. I think this hand plays better as a bluffcatcher, but of course it is close enough to not matter that much.