RedHot
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Good stuff. A minor point, I personally prefer 4 colour decks, they are easier to read in my opinion.
http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/12021-Episode-Two?seek=406
I kind of get the always limping from the small blind, but isn't 24o just rubbish? We are out of position with trash. Although its cheap, and provides some extra disguise for our best hands, it seems to me that we are often going to end up folding on the flop, like we do here.
It strikes me we can have a very wide range in this spot and still fold the worst of the worst.
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Psychobingo
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Deepsquat
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Hey Redhot,
Thanks for watching.
The theory behind limping the SB in 2/3 structure is primarily due to the fantastic odds we are getting and as a result, the wide range of hands BB should be playing in response.
The fact that we are getting such good odds to play hands, means BB should be playing many more hands too. So if BB is correctly going to be playing nearly all his hands (getting 3-1 in position if we raise) then much of the benefit of raising in the first place is negated. There is nothing we can do to prevent BB from playing the pot against us.
So we are getting 5-1 if we limp and BB doesnt raise, this makes it correct to play 100% of our range seeing as calling is super cheap. The best he can do is cut our odds to 3-1 if he raises our limp.
The big benefit comes from the information he gives us when he raises and when he doesnt raise.
If he raises, we get a good idea about his range, if he doesnt then we also get some information about his range. If he doesnt raise, we also get to see a flop getting 5-1.
Meanwhile he knows nothing about our range (info hiding). We can also represent hands on 100% of boards so we can have a pretty low threshold for kr the flop if we limp and he raises. He cant assume we are weak.
Its hard to say whether one strategy is better than another, but its definately something worth considering in this structure.
Btw- if you are interested in this at all, Phil Newall covers it well in "The Intelligent Poker Player"
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Deepsquat
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Psychobingo
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Interesting pyscho..
Intuitevely it seems ok given we vs an aggressive BB in a wide range spot. Ill have to stove it later to look at what our range looks like
Yeah i know, its just that we dont have that many good cards for our hand and i really think his checkraising range is 10x+, flushdraws and not really that many gutshots, and against that range we have very little equity and its probably going to cost 2,5 bb to get to showdown the times the board bricks out and we call down..
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Deepsquat
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Fantam
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Deepsquat
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Hey fantam,
Thanks for watching.
Both those hands i kinda close. I generally dont open below A7o in the CO unless BTN is tight or BB is exceptionally bad. Maybe its too tight? What are you opening in terms of offsuit Ax from CO?
63o again is close and prob a fold vs tpirahna due to how well he plays postflop. I think 64o is close and 65o and 63s is definately ok. I think in general most tags are too tight from BB but due to our opponent i think its actually a fold. Thanks for picking that up.
As a sidenote, its very hard to stove for these spots now, especially seeing good players are chking back flops more and more
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Fantam
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Hi DS
Thanks for the reply.
As a default, I am opening A5o+ from the CO. (FWIW I am playing at 0.50/1.00). I had a look at my PT database, but my sample size was not large enough to be meaningful.
I think I chose A5o from a combination of a hand chart in the Stox book and watching DC videos. 
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SIide
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I'm curious about a cold call 2 range in the BB when its a wide range vs wide range situation like say Btn PFR & SB 3-b or CO PFR & SB 3-bet. I think you've briefly addressed this in your last 2 videos, but haven't given a full description of your play style in this spot. I believe you cold call your entire range in a more narrow range situation, but still 4-bet your stronger hands in a wide range situation like I've mentioned? If the latter is true, do you still have a cold call 2 range even though you are 4-betting your best hands? Is so, what would that range look like, more or less, and what things should I be thinking about if/when I decided to cold call 2 with a particular hand? I think there is a spot where you fold 33 and another spot or two where you fold AJ that had me thinking about this.
If you go into this in great deal in a future video, I apologize for jumping the gun.
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Deepsquat
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I actually dont cap in BB at all in HU or 3 way pots.
Only when its 4 handed+ will I cap. I think this starts to get to the threshold where we need to capitalizing pf with our good hands and not worry so much about disguising our hand.
We also cant rely on getting an opportunity to kr the flop when it starts getting 4 handed as good opponents wont always cbet, so its best to get the $$ in pf.
I will coldcall my entire playing range in all situations in the BB.
Occasionally I will deviate from this in certain situations, but cc or fold is my standard.
Regarding hand selection, the absolute, most paramount thing is opponents imo. If opponents are bad, find a way to get into the pot. I think you can call right down to suited gappers etc if say a bad CO opens, Lag/tage 3bets in SB.
The thing with having a balanced coldcall range is we can take advantage of these situations without being handcuffed into either:
1) Having to cap or fold marginal hands
and
2) Being unbalanced by having a weaker than usual pf range
Id be more than happy to cover this concept in greater detail in a future video if people are interested 
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BigBadBabar
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