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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by DeathDonkey (High Stakes)

Hey guys....good stuff.

Re: No of tables.
BBB: clearly you are trending toward having more time and better decisions rather than more tables.
And I am sure you are aware of the W/R vs total hourly of PS.

But just with respect to multitabling skills - I would underline this point. Getting used to the speed of decision making is a big key. Put more precisely - its abit like endurance training - you have to build up and maintain the capacity to multi-table well.
I have always found that if every day I grind 24 tables then I take say a month off from 24 tabling when I comeback its very rushed and I might not keep up.
Now thats an extreme example - but if you are play alot 2 tabling then jump up to 6 tables you will be rushed intially even if you used to play 6 tables 2 months ago.

My suggestion is if you feel like you are too rushed - you might conisder investing 1 hour a day on nano limits playing like 12 tables of limit holdem and see how it feels and do it in some off time - then see how it feels playing 4 tables in your normal sessions. Now I cannot guarantee you that your decision making will be of the quality you have 2 tabling but I think by getting used to reacting over an excessive amount of tables that this will give you more time if you practise and build up those skills.

Also - I would also make the observation that gradually opening your tables up intra-session is advisable - I think if its your first session of the day - it takes a good 10-20 mins to get your brain into the swing of things. Similiarly at the backend of sessions playing fewer tables as you perhaps get tired and you mightnt even feel tired but I think you will find that reaction times slow as session length decreases or at least the amount and intensity of your thought process will decline.

All with the cavaet that the more tables you play the more you might be training yourself to autopilot....

Take that advice as you will - but they might help improve your 4 or 6 tabling if thats what you want.

Why do you have W$SD in your HUD? How do you use this stat at the table?

22:30 obv the optimal chat response to "straight?" would have been "no, bi-curious".

24:25 - unguarded flop checkraise on 983, us Q5 with FD - you were saying about re-bluffing on lots of turns, is it worth considering calling down here? Your Q high has SDV against most of his draws (t7, jt, j7 and lower flush draws). It's kinda close because he may be bluffing with better hands QJ and K high flushdraws).

If I had QT or QJ here i would be thinking about calling down over popping turn.

22:30 obv the optimal chat response to "straight?" would have been "no, bi-curious".

I'm definitely stealing this one for live play

Hey guys....good stuff.

Re: No of tables.
BBB: clearly you are trending toward having more time and better decisions rather than more tables.
And I am sure you are aware of the W/R vs total hourly of PS.

But just with respect to multitabling skills - I would underline this point. Getting used to the speed of decision making is a big key. Put more precisely - its abit like endurance training - you have to build up and maintain the capacity to multi-table well.
I have always found that if every day I grind 24 tables then I take say a month off from 24 tabling when I comeback its very rushed and I might not keep up.
Now thats an extreme example - but if you are play alot 2 tabling then jump up to 6 tables you will be rushed intially even if you used to play 6 tables 2 months ago.

My suggestion is if you feel like you are too rushed - you might conisder investing 1 hour a day on nano limits playing like 12 tables of limit holdem and see how it feels and do it in some off time - then see how it feels playing 4 tables in your normal sessions. Now I cannot guarantee you that your decision making will be of the quality you have 2 tabling but I think by getting used to reacting over an excessive amount of tables that this will give you more time if you practise and build up those skills.

Also - I would also make the observation that gradually opening your tables up intra-session is advisable - I think if its your first session of the day - it takes a good 10-20 mins to get your brain into the swing of things. Similiarly at the backend of sessions playing fewer tables as you perhaps get tired and you mightnt even feel tired but I think you will find that reaction times slow as session length decreases or at least the amount and intensity of your thought process will decline.

All with the cavaet that the more tables you play the more you might be training yourself to autopilot....

Take that advice as you will - but they might help improve your 4 or 6 tabling if thats what you want.

Good stuff; thanks. I was playing probably up to 10 or 12 tables of fullring for a good portion of last year and sometimes up to 6 or 8 6m tables. So I feel like my autopilot or grindmode is there. The problem is that I kind of plateaued -- wasn't beating 10/20 while doing that, so I am trying a different approach. I mean I feel like I'm continuing to improve as well but clearly having fewer tables and more focus makes it more likely my winrate will go up.

Lately I'm finding that four tables is a pretty good number for me where I can strike a good balance of getting volume in but at the same time having a good amount of time to think about ranges and make my decisions during the hand.

Why do you have W$SD in your HUD? How do you use this stat at the table?

I like having the tandem of WtSD and W$SD - it helps me think about a player's showdown tendencies. I can doubleclick to see what it is during a specific session - ie if someone is running very well, or very poorly, it might influence my line vs them...same thing if they're being very sticky or very foldy. And over big samples once those start to converge I can see who's more showdown bound, who's less so, and what the ratio is between those two stats.

For example you see a lot of 38/53 or 40/50 type of guys (and I tend to think it's not exactly linear but often you're shifting values from one of those columns to the other) but if I saw a 38/57 guy or a 40/48 guy, that is out of the norm and I'd try to decide if he was showing down too often with a certain kind of hand (maybe all ace highs regardless of texture) or something.

Anyway I'm possibly rambling now but my point is I use both showdown stats in conjunction and find them useful.

22:30 obv the optimal chat response to "straight?" would have been "no, bi-curious".

I went to go type something and then didn't end up doing so. I regret this missed opportunity. OTR taught me that the correct reply is to always say something such as "yep" or "I have it," etc. I saw it used to powerful effect vs qsdaddy.

24:25 - unguarded flop checkraise on 983, us Q5 with FD - you were saying about re-bluffing on lots of turns, is it worth considering calling down here? Your Q high has SDV against most of his draws (t7, jt, j7 and lower flush draws). It's kinda close because he may be bluffing with better hands QJ and K high flushdraws).

If I had QT or QJ here i would be thinking about calling down over popping turn.

Yeah, I like this and I agree. There's not much difference here between good queens and bad aces as far as bluffcatching vs lots of his draws. Although, I don't know/remember specifically if he checkraises big aces here for value, which would suck if he's valuebetting them and I'm bluffcatching with worse.

53:00 I peel here. The 2 bd straight draws and bd flush draw to go along with our possible set outs in a big pot make it a peel for me. Obv the pf capper could have AA or JJ but closing the action in a big pot makes this a peel for me.

58:00 I definitely iso raise here. I would raise if there weren't a limper and a bad player that I have position on is not going to change my approach.

Yeah I like the iso raise, still not sure on the peel with TT there, we were getting 14:1, so I guess its a matter of estimating what our backdoors are worth. Hmm I guess with our relative position and the fact that its clearly close you are right.

Is that the K3s iso? I agree that I missed that one.

Is that the K3s iso? I agree that I missed that one.

Yeah, of spades!

at 5:55 you bet call the turn with AA on QQ6K, " i have a note on this guy that he called check raised trips"

I have 2 problems with this.

1. You guys didn't even debate checking the turn. really? I think a turn check here is by far better than bet call call river.

2. If you didn't check the turn, than what is your note intended to do for you? make sure you don't 3bet the turn when you have an overpair with trips on board? 99% of the time You shouldn't be doing that anyway. The usefulness I would get out of your note would be "hmm maybe I should check this turn back, I'm missing 1 big bet of value from queens and sixes, but saving 2 bets against queens", and you might induce a call on the river from AJ AT A9 A8 A7, or you might induce a bluff from JT J9 87s or whatever b.s.

FWIW I check this turn back as my standard play.


Are you guys not violating TOS by doing live play with DD giving advice during the hand?
I thought I remember a 1 player per hand rule on online sites.
I could be wrong.