BigBadBabar
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Deepsquat
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NH.
I could even make an argument for a turn fold but i think its ok with a weak GS vs TL
This hand is so near the bottom of your range on the riv that we can fold it.
Would be more interesting with a good Ax, especially if you dont cap preflop
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KCStrom
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The flop and turn are very standard, but the river has got to be pretty darn close(depending on which TLWB is playing). I mean, we're getting 7.5:1 against a crazy man.
Maybe start with a (very)generous 3Betting range and see what your equity looks like on this board. I feel like he 3bets me in this spot with +50% of hands, and I can only imagine how he's playing this spot against an unknown. I'd also expect him to 3barrel a lot of the time on this board, so I think we can get a pretty good idea of our overall equity by just looking at A4o on this board versus his entire PF range.
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Psychobingo
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Fold. He doesnt really 3barrel enough in my experience, but this is obviously very player dependant and your own history with him. But theres more hands i would like to show down here, A4 doesnt quite cut it. Although it is very close to the top of my non capping range as i would cap A9 often, i still think its a fold.
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I think turn seems a lot closer than you guys, I would have probably folded turn (or crying called river). I don't think we have enough on straight pot odds so its clearly partially about having the best hand, but Tuan isn't going to give up on the river so we have to look at the effective odds to call turn+river. I think I fold turn, but I do think its pretty close.
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BigBadBabar
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KCStrom
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Shrug. Pretty standard up to the river. No idea whether you should pay him off. Would be easier to say if you had included the recent chatlog.
I just checked the HH:
TuanLee:nso lckuy idotfish. alwys rise evey flopp nd turn
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Haven't played TLW in a while, but I remember him also not always auto-barreling rivers. However, I think he's the exact player type we want to ingrain in his head that we are never folding ace high so I would probably call the first few times the board comes out like this, so he knows IMA SHOWIN DOWN.
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BigOuts2Nguyen
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The flop and turn are very standard, but the river has got to be pretty darn close(depending on which TLWB is playing). I mean, we're getting 7.5:1 against a crazy man.
Maybe start with a (very)generous 3Betting range and see what your equity looks like on this board. I feel like he 3bets me in this spot with +50% of hands, and I can only imagine how he's playing this spot against an unknown. I'd also expect him to 3barrel a lot of the time on this board, so I think we can get a pretty good idea of our overall equity by just looking at A4o on this board versus his entire PF range.
+1 to this and +1 to IMA SHOWIN DOWN.
Also he likes to put you on a range of exactly one hand and not relinquish that read regardless of future action when he's on raging TLWB tilt.
A nifty way to check for this is search him in the lobby looking at what tables he's at. If he's at like 6+ and has less than 10 BBs on like 4+ of them then he's going to be thinking this way a much higher % of the time.
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I'd prefer calling down or fold turn if you don't have a good handle on villain yet.
I feel like this is what I should have done. Probably I should call down this time and the next few times to see what kinds of hands he has here.
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