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I think that vs intelligent opponent is check on river best. Turn and river was worst cards in deck because every good oponnent will expect that you do not bluff this flop with K or Q high and he will expect you continue with your bluffs because board look scary. I will much more scared with my 55 if
turn was 7 and river 9.
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DiggerTheDog
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BBB: you made a comment that you are upset that you found yourself taking an acton you otherwise wouldnt in a review process.
Firstly - I think you should view it very positively - as it shows room for improvement which is good, right?
Secondly - you might consider that you have found a process leak. If you narrow down the differences between a review process and in-game decision making - you might be able to find the reason for these aberrant bets.
a) amount of time for decision assessment - you could be playing too many tables
b) when in the session they were - you might have been tilting or tired
Both of which you can remedy....
good vid anyway.
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BigBadBabar
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I think that vs intelligent opponent is check on river best. Turn and river was worst cards in deck because every good oponnent will expect that you do not bluff this flop with K or Q high and he will expect you continue with your bluffs because board look scary. I will much more scared with my 55 if
turn was 7 and river 9.
Yeah, I agree, vs a solid reg who I know better I might not bet river. But since this guy was unknown to me at the time I think I should have bet.
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BigBadBabar
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BBB: you made a comment that you are upset that you found yourself taking an acton you otherwise wouldnt in a review process.
Firstly - I think you should view it very positively - as it shows room for improvement which is good, right?
Secondly - you might consider that you have found a process leak. If you narrow down the differences between a review process and in-game decision making - you might be able to find the reason for these aberrant bets.
a) amount of time for decision assessment - you could be playing too many tables
b) when in the session they were - you might have been tilting or tired
Both of which you can remedy....
good vid anyway.
I like your post. I've been trying to stick to a maximum of 4 tables in the last day or two and I feel a little less harried and with more thinking time.
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NinaWilliams
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Hood
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Hand 2 with the QQ: I think turn checkraise on the Kxx board is actually pretty awesome. You are going to have to put in 2BB on the turn anyway if the opponent has a king (because he is going to raise you and you'll have to call down). I think you guys dismiss the play too fast because you feel your hand isn't strong enough to checkraise, but don't note that by leading turn you open yourself up to getting raised anyway.
So check-raising gets an extra BB vs some hands. Often villain is drawing dead or to 3-5 outs so giving a free card isn't devastating, there's the chance villain improves to a worse hand. Also makes you a bitch to play against. You do miss value from Ax that may call turn and river but that's not a cert. You might induce bluffs from hands that would otherwise fold. On the flip side... checkraising opens us up to a 3bet. Also leading turn may induce some bluff raises.
So there's lots to consider with a turn checkraise but i think it's a great play to have in your arsenal in spots like this.
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Hood
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I think that vs intelligent opponent is check on river best. Turn and river was worst cards in deck because every good oponnent will expect that you do not bluff this flop with K or Q high and he will expect you continue with your bluffs because board look scary. I will much more scared with my 55 if
turn was 7 and river 9.
Pretty much my thoughts. The K and Q are great bricks for him. You say in the vid you don't want to see him call down with 77 here because they are the hands you are targetting; 77 should be happy to see how the board came out - no clubs, no 7s or 8s. There's now no K highs for you to fold.
Really not sure why you guys think this is a good board texture to barrel off on.
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Hood
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18:44: it's not 100% clear but i think you say on this k77 board vs a button steal you would rather have QJ than A3, is that right?
I don't quite follow. Sure A3 has less ways to improve than QJ if our opponent holds a good ace; but vs his range (that includes lots of pairso f Ks), the ace fairs better. By my calcs it has around 10% more equity vs a button steal range. Ax seems easier to play too when we improve.
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Hood
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Regarding mistakes - what DD says seems right, looks like you may be misreading the action, in that you look at these spots and just assume you have the initiative.
Do you have Live Tracking enabled in HEM? works great on stars and FT now, and is excellent for reading the betting actions on previous streets to see who has initiative.
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BigBadBabar
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You won 30BBs without seeing a flop over the course of 350 hands? That's 0.5BB / 1 big blind per orbit you stole.
Yeah the import of this didn't really sink in until I watched the video after we made it.
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BigBadBabar
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Regarding mistakes - what DD says seems right, looks like you may be misreading the action, in that you look at these spots and just assume you have the initiative.
Do you have Live Tracking enabled in HEM? works great on stars and FT now, and is excellent for reading the betting actions on previous streets to see who has initiative.
No, what's live tracking?
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