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The Leap: Episode Two

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The Leap: Episode Two by DeathDonkey, BigBadBabar

DeathDonkey and BigBadBabar review a 4-tabling video of Babar's play discussing some tricky spots he gets into, as well as critiquing and observing his game selection at $5/10 and $10/20.

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DeathDonkey works with BigBadBabar in his return to the video felt, helping him move up to where they respect his raises.

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  • Game: lhe
  • Stakes: High Stakes
  • 77 minutes long
  • Posted over 2 years ago

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TazUltimate

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jph424

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Great stuff guys. The blind v blind discussion was particularly good. I kept waiting to see my note but no such luck. Maybe next video.

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GGB

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Time Link to 00:07:19

I feel like this is a good concept that changes when you move to higher stakes. I would never peel here unless I can raise atleast some improvement on the turn. It would just put way too much of my range to just calling down rather than making myself hard to play against. When you move to higher stakes against tougher regs you need to be putting them to tough decisions when a jack comes with TT and worse hands because when you want to win unimproved you are just going to have no chance.

Posted over 2 years ago

BigBadBabar

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Here is BBB's original vid: http://static.deucescracked.com/BBB_Leap_2_Vid.wmv



thanks Rusty!

to clarify, this is the video of my play that this episode (The Leap 2) is taken from. We didn't get through all the footage in the video -- only about half or so. So this will have some extra stuff in it.

Posted over 2 years ago

Amaryllis

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Time Link to 00:08:44

How about calling the turn when we hit and raising a non-ace river?

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DeathDonkey

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How about calling the turn when we hit and raising a non-ace river?



I think you are talking about the QJ hand / peel on king high board discussion? I think your line is much much worse than raising turn because we are trying to get a thinnish value raise in on turn to protect our semibluffs. We will often be in bad shape against his triple barrel range and not want to raise river, and he will check to us the times we are good a lot, so we end up missing out on 1 BB.

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Amaryllis

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I think you are talking about the QJ hand / peel on king high board discussion? I think your line is much much worse than raising turn because we are trying to get a thinnish value raise in on turn to protect our semibluffs. We will often be in bad shape against his triple barrel range and not want to raise river, and he will check to us the times we are good a lot, so we end up missing out on 1 BB.



I think I see what you mean. Sorry if it sounds too basic, but I'd like to understand better. So basically, it's much better to raise the turn with the QJ hand on K87J because:

1- We get thin value immediately, whereas he might check the river if we don't,
2- We balance our turn semibluff range, increasing our overall semibluff success since they become more credible,
3- If we call turn and raise river and he calls, we probably had the worst hand.

Does this mean we're taking a free showdown when he calls our turn raise? 4 BB would go in post flop otherwise.

Posted over 2 years ago

JaneTheHot

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Time Link to 00:52:52

I think we need to either 3 bet like DD said or at least cc. The pot is getting kinda big with a bad player who ol. It is also very easy to play our hand in such spot. I hate a fold /w 55. 22,33,44 is close.

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DeathDonkey

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I think I see what you mean. Sorry if it sounds too basic, but I'd like to understand better. So basically, it's much better to raise the turn with the QJ hand on K87J because:

1- We get thin value immediately, whereas he might check the river if we don't,
2- We balance our turn semibluff range, increasing our overall semibluff success since they become more credible,
3- If we call turn and raise river and he calls, we probably had the worst hand.

Does this mean we're taking a free showdown when he calls our turn raise? 4 BB would go in post flop otherwise.



No, we bet river. That's precisely the point. If we raise turn and bet river we get called by a lot of hands that would probably check/call river if we just call turn. We will win more $ the times we raise turn and bet river and get called down, than when we call turn raise river and get called, that's for sure.

Posted over 2 years ago

BigBadBabar

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We're probably also firing once more with our missed semibluffs, since the pot is so big and we're getting a good price on our bluff. So betting again for thin value gives us some balance here. And we'll be betting when our semibluffs get there, obviously.

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Amaryllis

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We're probably also firing once more with our missed semibluffs, since the pot is so big and we're getting a good price on our bluff. So betting again for thin value gives us some balance here. And we'll be betting when our semibluffs get there, obviously.


Thanks for anticipating my next question.

Great stuff, BBB and DD.

Posted over 2 years ago

bellatrix

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Time Link to 00:35:39

So I'm going back and forth with this one and somehow feel like I'm leveling myself here.

Turn 6c on a 5sKd2c board and we have Q5.
He checks to us.

When DD suggests bet, you're trying to get value from a deuce and protecting his 6 outers or is it simply to throw him off our actual hand?
What would you do in this situation with a hand like A2, A3, A4, 33, 44?
And since you said we call our kings on the flop here, what would you do on the turn with a hand like K3, K4?
It's just so weird with Q5, because it is that right in between spot...

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