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I keep going back and forth between wanting to cap this hand for value and keeping it in my calling range.

Villain is the same tilty tag from hand #2 and I'm unsure if I should be folding river when my hand seems so face up.

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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BTN with A Q
Hero raises, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero calls

Flop: (7 SB) 7 T 9 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls

Turn: (4.5 BB) K (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls

River: (6.5 BB) K (2 players)
SB bets, Hero ???

Cap or call, it depends on your opponent and what kind of line you wanna take, if opponent is spewy, and will bluff 3 streets, call pre.

I think this becomes a pokerstove calculation which i dont know how to do, and would be too lazy even if i knew how, cus he can be valuebetting AQ AJ here sometimes too (for value)

So what portion of his range is AQ AJ vs made hands?


At firt glance i thought it is easy call, but actually he can't have many bluffs, and he'll hafta have exactly AJ for you to win.

Hmm i'd say it's pretty close, and doesn't matter much

I mean for him to be bluffing he has to have 3bet preflop with Q8, or 65 suited, and then decided to barrel all streets.

he aint bluffing

he's valuebetting.

Thanks for the responses.

Yeah, I don't think he's bluffing either, but he also really really hates me at the moment because I've owned him in a couple hands and he let me hear about how bad I play in chat. Which makes me think he might angrily barrel off with some bluffs?

I'm getting 7.5:1 so I need like 13.33% equity to break even.

If he isn't bluffing his range looks like this imo: 44+,A9s+,A8,A7,A6,A5,A4,A3,A2,K6s+,Q9s+,J8s+,T8s+,A9o+,K9o+,QTo+,JTo which I have 8.7% equity against. If I add like 4 combos of bluffs it bumps it up to 10.2% equity fwiw.

Just realized that for the above example it should be 3 combos instead of 4 to make it 10.2% equity because I used Q8s as the bluffing hand and we have the Q.

I don't think villain's bet here with AQ/AJ all the often as its not really for value or as a bluff, but probably value bet anything better.

I think its a fold. As has already been mentioned he doesn't have many/if any bluffs in his range on the river unless he turns like A2-A5 into a bluff.

I think if you have a capping range preflop then this hand should go in that bucket, and if you don't cap anything, then don't cap this either.

As played I think I'd call down, given that my preflop/postflop line might be encouraging him to barrel a little lightly. We beat some combos of suited aces and when you say he's tilty there's some tiny chance he has some baloney.

in position I generally widen my capping range (so this goes in) and OOP I narrow it (actually to 0 HU, most times).
I fold the river, there could be a timing tell sometimes if you're not both multitabling, but usually I'd fold.

Do you have a guess as to how often he 3bets you preflop when you open from the button?

I think this comes down to what he'll do with ace high on the river. If he's checking most of them most of the time this doesn't seem close to a call.
Assuming he 3bets 25% or so ace high makes up about 20% of his hands on the river assuming he always barrels the flop and turn

I would fold the river, you can have PLENTY of hands that play this way that will always pay off so if we are calling with this hand I think we are just calling way too much.

I don't think villain's bet here with AQ/AJ all the often as its not really for value or as a bluff, but probably value bet anything better.

I think its a fold. As has already been mentioned he doesn't have many/if any bluffs in his range on the river unless he turns like A2-A5 into a bluff.

Cool. Agreed and I think that A7o or A8o is the bottom of his Ax distribution fwiw. Maybe top 23-24% of hands is what I gave him for his 3betting range.

I think if you have a capping range preflop then this hand should go in that bucket, and if you don't cap anything, then don't cap this either.

Yeah, I like to mix it up and not cap anything sometimes and cap everything depending on how wide I think their 3betting ranges are and how well they play in 3b pots vs capped pots as the major determining factor.

As played I think I'd call down, given that my preflop/postflop line might be encouraging him to barrel a little lightly. We beat some combos of suited aces and when you say he's tilty there's some tiny chance he has some baloney.

That's what I did and I felt like I didn't think through his value range vs bluffing range well enough. He showed me the K7s!

in position I generally widen my capping range (so this goes in) and OOP I narrow it (actually to 0 HU, most times).
I fold the river, there could be a timing tell sometimes if you're not both multitabling, but usually I'd fold.

Yeah I mixing in the no capping range in HU from EP in 6max after watching Zwei is the Loneliest number. I think it's great. HUHU I cap people and try to tilt them relentlessly!

Do you have a guess as to how often he 3bets you preflop when you open from the button?

I think this comes down to what he'll do with ace high on the river. If he's checking most of them most of the time this doesn't seem close to a call.
Assuming he 3bets 25% or so ace high makes up about 20% of his hands on the river assuming he always barrels the flop and turn

Ummm top 24% with all pairs over some of the Axs so like: 22+,A2s+,K7s+,Q8s+,J9s+,T9s,A8o+,K9o+,QTo+,JTo maybe?

I would fold the river, you can have PLENTY of hands that play this way that will always pay off so if we are calling with this hand I think we are just calling way too much.

Cool, that's comforting because I think you're really good at playing these spots from watching your videos. As played I called, and after analyzing it away the tables I felt like I made a pretty big error.

Errr 22+,A4s+,K7s+,Q8s+,J9s+,T9s,A8o+,K9o+,QTo+,JTo is what I meant to say there.