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I'm scared that Im a bit too nitty pf.

1) Vilain is a 31/24 LAG/TAG who I think is better than me.

5-handed
Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is BTN with 9 A
UTG raises, 2 folds
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2) Same stats but different guy. Strong player though .

-5 players -
Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is CO with 4 4
UTG raises, 3 folds
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3) Unknown poster

- 5 players - CO posts a big blind (1 SB)

Pre Flop: (2.4 SB) Hero is SB with T J
1 fold, CO raises, 3 folds
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4) Real Laggy poor villain 50/25

- 6 players -
Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is BTN with 9 7
2 folds, CO raises, 1 fold
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5) 48/16 with spewy post flop tendencies (over values hands).

- 4 players -
Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is SB with T Q
CO raises, 3 folds

I'm scared that Im a bit too nitty pf.

Is this all because of watching that one DeathDonkey hand?

Seriously though, I'd be interested in reading some discussion on these types of spots - particularly the SB vs. L.P. raises. Of the top of my head, I found that #1 looked a bit "nitty," but Stoving it vs. and UTG range, our equity was only between 45% - 48%, depending what kind of range I gave him. But roughly the WITHG ones, were what I used. I guess it also just feels a bit less scary to 3bet to me, from the button, than in the SB.

Wondering if anyone else has some thoughts/guidelines on what they might do differently when OOP vs. IP here.

Oh, and Sushi, your cat pooped on my kitchen floor this morning. lol

For what it is worth:

1) I fold if the player is better than me, bottom of my range of 3-betting with suited aces otherwise.
2) I 3-bet these usually unless the player is really good or aggressive.
3) I fold.
4) I 3-bet but not against this player type.
5) Fold.

At a quick glance, none of these seems really bad at all. Maybe Oink can find a reason for playing several or all of these hands, but I hardly think folding here is going to significantly affect your winrate, even if we assume (probably falsely) that each hand could be played for +EV.

1) 3-bet- Even if we're at the bottom of our range here, our position and the strength we're showing (over-repping our hand perhaps) will make up for it. Plus if he caps we can play perfectly.

2) Fold- easy fold imo.

3) Fold- I think posters generally have a strong range here, but the bb could make it a possible call. 3-betting might not be absolutely horrible, but I don't see much value.

4) Call- Great hand to play multi-way. We have position, a pretty hand, and we aren't going to play horribly. Inducing people to make big mistakes in big multi-way pots is insanely profitable.

5) Fold- I'd say I'm just leaning towards fold here, but there are certainly arguments otherwise. I just look for better spots to play against these villains, try to get them dominated and let them spew on the big streets. When people spew vs this hand they can be good some of the time.


I think these are reasonably close spots. It's more important to adjust your ranges based on the action, who's acted in front of you and who is left behind, as opposed to having default ranges for these spots, kind of an obvious thing to say but you don't want to create bad habits.

Your opening range is going to be pretty consistent with slight adjustments to the game you are playing in (how tight or loose the blinds are etc.), while your "vs open" range should be adjusting all the time depending on the game conditions (who's tilting, your table image etc.).

In order from most likely to play to least likely:

3>4>5>1>2

Hand 3 is an auto 3 bet for me, his range is probably any 2 cards (I'm reading it correctly, he posted in CO and raised his option right?), hand 4 and 5 villains are bad players, so that takes precedence. Big cards play better vs tough players than small pairs do imo.

In order from most likely to play to least likely:

3>4>5>1>2

Hand 3 is an auto 3 bet for me, his range is probably any 2 cards (I'm reading it correctly, he posted in CO and raised his option right?), hand 4 and 5 villains are bad players, so that takes precedence. Big cards play better vs tough players than small pairs do imo.

Agree with everything but putting (3) first in line. If he is raising any2 its fine, and this was an advice I remember Bob Ciafonne gave a number of years ago (the price for ur steal is very good), but my experience is that u will be 3bet sick light if u raise ur posted blind so Im not sure this is any2 today. And often someone posting is also loose, and JT isnt playing that good against someone going to showdown 50% of the time.

Oh, and Sushi, your cat pooped on my kitchen floor this morning. lol

Wow we must have a subconcious connection cause I did the same thing !

Lol

Seems like I'm not that nitty as I thought. Will soon make a "Am I too crazy?" thread.

[quote]3>4>5>1>2
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3 >> 1 > 4 = 5 >> 2

imo

[quote][quote]3>4>5>1>2
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3 >> 1 > 4 = 5 >> 2

imo[/quote]

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