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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by DeathDonkey (High Stakes)

Re: A3ss OTB against boc

DD,

What are your thought on chking back this board texture, both with your hand and with different parts of your range in general?

My thoughts are that its probably right, but I am not great at it yet. I think its one area of LHE that is a bit wide open right now and the winning players are going to come to some conclusions over the next year or so. Hopefully I figure it out

re: the AK hand - you are def right, I regret the fold.

Re: KdQx against mr west

Does the fact that he raised the flop (rather than you checking the turn out of rhythm as you said in the vid) make you want to fold more?

Ah, good catch, yes it definitely does. I mean the turn is awful for me given his flop raising range.

re: K6 against mr west

Given his propensity to barrel with whatever non-sd type hand he has on pretty hopeless board textures (eg 34 on AKx), what do you think about calling turn and c/r river (when he bets the turn)?

I think my hand is just too strong? I mean its gotta be close to a turn cap and river lead. Make my hand a weak ace and it has more merit.

Re: Q8ss against heis

I'm also a bit perplexed by your comment re: raising this flop texture. I feel as though, because the board is so dry, you'll have a bit narrower peeling range so you'll need to be raising right away far more often than you generally would.

I guess its pretty clear that there are two reasonable strategies on a dry board, either incorporate outright bluff raises, or make some light peels and semibluff when you pick up a hand on the turn. I tried to mention its an ok board to peel with a pretty silly looking hand, such as JT, but those dry flops are a bit annoying when your range is wide but you hit the board so rarely. I need to think about it some more I guess.

Only watched the first 15min or so, but just wanted to say that these kind of mid/high stakes videos are great coupled with the discussion afterwards. So more of this please!!

Time Link to 00:02:11

This spot where a limper gets raised from the SB and we are in the BB has come up for me a couple of times recently. Given ur play (3-bet JTs) it is safe to say I have been too passive . If we talk ranges here do u 3-bet a similar range as u would from the BTN vs a CO opener or do u go even wider?

Good stuff! I think the prize of making vidz became clear given how boc4life played. Pretty scary.

Good stuff! I think the prize of making vidz became clear given how boc4life played. Pretty scary.

I'm a bit unsure if you are insulting him or not, but I think boc is one of the toughest players out there.

I'm a bit unsure if you are insulting him or not, but I think boc is one of the toughest players out there.

I didn't intend to. I just think u have revealed some spots where u have few bluffs though. Maybe I'm totally wrong about everything .

Re: AK blind battle with heisenb3rg

I think the river decision is a close but clear call. Yes, a scary card did hit on the river and his range will be fairly strong, but we have one of the stronger hands in our range, especially since the 4 paired on the turn. I'm not sure if you put more action in with your sevens, but either way he'll be giving up with zero bluffs on this particular river card. I would guess on a more blankish card, he'd be checking back with, for example, the king high flush draw pretty regularly.

So his bluff range should expand here along with his value range. Interestingly this is why, if heis is going to raise this flop, he should be raising with hands like Kx and Ax of diamonds... the fact that we have the ace of diamonds makes me want to call a bit less, but not enough to fold such a strong hand within our range.

Edit: I thinking hoping for him to be valuebetting like AQ is really optimistic... If he does bet AQ- on this river it's as a bluff.

He flats pre so I doubt AQ/AJ is in his range all that much, and I agree that he'd be bluffing with it sooner than valuebetting it. In fact I really doubt he'd ever flat pre then raise the flop with those hands so I think we can assume that part of his range is somewhere between negligible and non-existant.

The fact that we have the Ad makes me want to call more, because if he had the Adxd he could check behind and expect to win vs worse flushdraws, so because we have the nutdrawblocker he'll have a flushdraw without showdownvalue more often.

That said, I think the 8 is such a horrible card that I like a fold because we only really beat flushdraws, our hand kinda looks like either a draw or ace high and I doubt our opponent expects us to fold very much (we hit the 8 pretty hard too with our range, and if he has a hand he needs to bluff with he'll usually have missed diamonds which decreases the chance that we have them) so I can see this as a spot where he might give up with a hand like Q6 some of the time. Getting 7:1, meh. I think it'd be too stationish to call here, and I would definitely muck AK with the king of diamonds.

I only don't mind a call if we realise it's probably slightly -EV but we're doing it to get some info, look unbluffable and maybe be right once in 9 times or something.

(Disclaimer: LHE is like my 5th best game, so feel free to point out flaws in my thought process)

I'm a bit unsure if you are insulting him or not, but I think boc is one of the toughest players out there.

I got the impression Sushi was actually complementing Boc referring to where he was able to lay down what seemed to clearly be a pair on the turn in a big pot on the 444 board at about 7:30.

The fact that we have the Ad makes me want to call more, because if he had the Adxd he could check behind and expect to win vs worse flushdraws, so because we have the nutdrawblocker he'll have a flushdraw without showdownvalue more often.

That said, I think the 8 is such a horrible card that I like a fold...

it'd be too stationish to call here, and I would definitely muck AK with the king of diamonds.

Heisenberg is barreling every single flush draw in his range on this particular river because of this mindset. His total range is stronger because of the river card and so he needs to bet some hands, as a bluff, that he'd check back otherwise...

The fact that we have the Ad really should decrease the number of bluffs in his range. That said, what hands, with which you took this passive line, would you call on this river? Basically my contention is that AK is the top of your range in this spot and thus should be a call. You can fold more hands that are closer to the bottom of your range imo...

I got the impression Sushi was actually complementing Boc referring to where he was able to lay down what seemed to clearly be a pair on the turn in a big pot on the 444 board at about 7:30.

Yeah this was my thinking. Seems like DD just cant get over the Kitten business. I tried to convinve M.B. that "Nuclear" was a good name for a kitten but she disagreed .

About the AK hand: Isn't it a bit dangerous to fold 100% on scare cards and very little on blanks? To be able to fold AK on he 8 river we have to believe that Heisenberg has so few bluffs that it doesn't matter if we fold an exploitable amount. That is even if we fold more than the pot-odds he is getting on a bluff he doesn't have enough bluffs in relation to v-bets to exploit that. But that means IMO that he has made unbalance errors earlir in the hand?

It's the OTR rule of flop XR: We need to XR a range that gives us enough bluffs on scare cards. So he needs to take the line he did with some hands that doesn't improve by the 8.

Or is the truth that if he has enough bluffs on scare cards he will have way to many on safe rivers? Perhaps the price of having enough bluffs on this particular river is too high?

What say thy DH, god of GTO?

Not sure when your video with Mikel re: open-completing comes out, but I would like to see how your approach compares and contrasts with mine.