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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by DeathDonkey (High Stakes)

but aren't really willing to raise for value aggressively (probably most of the commerce 40 players).

you answered your own question in the end. well said.

re: dark bets.

i think from most players it means strength. if someone does them all the time (as i have from time to time) it means they think their opponent is so bad and so loose and passive they dont really care to think about what that player has unless raised. or that they are a total maniac and think it's fun to dark bet. i usually fall into the former camp. in fact in some hu spots with a pair i will bet and not even look at the board just look at the opponent, and do so on every street. how they react to the board and the dark bets tells you a lot more then looking down and seeing "oh look it's Q54-9 and i have 77". if your opponent is hellbent for showdown with A high type hands and 22 (most live players) then why would you want any card on the board detract you from value betting your brains out. sometimes ive dragged the pot and never once looked at the board.

i check dark a lot too. on the flop heads up i never donk (although there are great arguments in favor of it) so my check is automatic, just as their bet usually is. now im last to act on the flop.

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so if we don't have the 8 of are we still calling this turn?