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Ghost: DosXX (#4) - $10/20 LHE

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Ghost: DosXX (#4) - $10/20 LHE by DosXX

DosXX plays 2 tables of $10/20 LHE and talks about his opponents and his own plays throughout.

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  • Posted over 2 years ago

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DosXX

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So, you are right, my filter was set for =>3, which certainly affected the results. My filter is now set for: 6 players, position =3, and raise first in.

http://yfrog.com/5yktoutgj

Also, the stat is BB/100 hands, not BB/hand. It's in $/hand, though.

Posted over 2 years ago

BigBadBabar

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Also, sample size for the number of trials needed for one individual hand like that - I expect it would take much longer to converge.

Posted over 2 years ago

bluffindeuce

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So, you are right, my filter was set for =>3, which certainly affected the results. My filter is now set for: 6 players, position =3, and raise first in.

http://yfrog.com/5yktoutgj

Also, the stat is BB/100 hands, not BB/hand. It's in $/hand, though.



Sorry, my bad. Mixed it up because I use BB/hand. So that means you average 0.066BB/hand with KTo UTG 6max. Perhaps some other guys could share their experience with this situation?

Posted over 2 years ago

motienko

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My reasoning is that this is a strong enough hand with enough equity when 3 bet/coldcalled/or the blinds play that I open it. I was curious after you asked the question so I looked in my database. You can see the results of opening K9, KT, and KJ offsuit 3 seats off the button for all my hands. Most are 5/10+. The reason VPIP isn't close to 100 is that a lot of my hands are full ring where these would get folded if someone opens before us.

http://yfrog.com/mtktocapturej

I know the sample is small for individual hands, but that's why I included the KJ and K9, so at least we can see if our results make some sense.



I think the difference between the games you play in and the games I play in is that if I raise KTo UTG, it could easily be cc by two maybe 3 players. I will often be in mw pots with K high not a great kicker OOP.

Also, the rake is much higher at the lower limits.

That being said, I have been studying a lot of winning players and a common denominator is that they mostly seem to be 30+ VPP. Perhaps playing more hands like these put them in more tough spots and therefore given them more opportunities to learn and refine there game.

I would be curious to see your HJ stats with KTo. It seems when somebody raises UTG it is a tight range, but when they open in the HJ its almost like they are in steal position suddenly. I am curious if you get played back at more from this spot and perhaps have a lower win rate.

Thanks for your reply..It's been a great Vid.

Posted over 2 years ago

DosXX

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One more thing that I often discuss with students who I suggest to open up their range a little bit. We are not only opening up our preflop range because there are additional +EV hands, but we are widening our ranges in our opponents minds and they will make worse decisions against our collective ranges, which gives our stronger hands an even bigger winrate.

Posted over 2 years ago

motienko

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With an aggressive player to your left like Tuan, how do you adjust your preflop open range? In this spot, for instance, I would fold the K8o. I would also eliminate some of the smaller suited hands.

Posted over 2 years ago

Amaryllis

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I don't think he folds QJ, TJ, QT often enough on the turn. How about check calling turn and check folding river?

I just feel that when you bet the turn and check the river, even a passive player like him takes a shot on the river with his busted straight draws and flush draws.

Posted over 2 years ago

Amaryllis

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Psychobingo

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Is this really a peel?



I think not, the 5 really isnt that good for you, and if you pair up when the flushdraw fills you sometimes are dead and sometimes they have redraws if you moved ahead. I just fold the flop tbh.

Posted over 2 years ago

DosXX

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With an aggressive player to your left like Tuan, how do you adjust your preflop open range? In this spot, for instance, I would fold the K8o. I would also eliminate some of the smaller suited hands.



I would take out some hands definitely, probably the ones that don't have as much showdown value. I think opening K8o is probably a mistake there.

Posted over 2 years ago

DosXX

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I don't think he folds QJ, TJ, QT often enough on the turn. How about check calling turn and check folding river?

I just feel that when you bet the turn and check the river, even a passive player like him takes a shot on the river with his busted straight draws and flush draws.



I don't think your plan to check/call and check/fold makes a lot of sense if you think he is going to bluff when you bet and check/call. If anything, betting the turn would give him less of a reason to bluff the river than if we check the turn.

But, I think that's mostly moot, because I am confident that players don't bet QJ/QT/JT on the river when we check.

Posted over 2 years ago

DosXX

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I think not, the 5 really isnt that good for you, and if you pair up when the flushdraw fills you sometimes are dead and sometimes they have redraws if you moved ahead. I just fold the flop tbh.



Looking back I knew it was close and I think it should probably be a fold, for the reasons mentioned.

Posted over 2 years ago

Amaryllis

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I don't think your plan to check/call and check/fold makes a lot of sense if you think he is going to bluff when you bet and check/call. If anything, betting the turn would give him less of a reason to bluff the river than if we check the turn.

But, I think that's mostly moot, because I am confident that players don't bet QJ/QT/JT on the river when we check.



Here's the hand if people want to discuss but can't review the video right away:
Utg (good laggy-tag) raises, CO (reason the game is going, pretty passive) cold calls, folded to DXX in the BB who 3bets with 8Club8Spade, call, call.

Flop: KHeartAHeart5Club

DXX bets, CO calls

Turn: KHeartAHeart5Club2Club

DXX checks, and CO bets


I think we're leaving money on the table if we fold after he takes one shot at this pot, because there's just too many draws out there. I would still like to be convinced if I'm wrong, but I think both lines bet turn c/c river, and c/c turn c/f river are superior. The latter because he'd have to be bluffing twice, which is far less likely. In a relatively big pot, everyone will take one shot at it. There's just too many possible straight and flush draws out there.

Posted over 2 years ago

Deepsquat

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Nice vid mate

You defend 77 in the BB vs BTN open, flop is JJ9 or something and you c/c

I think you mentioned later on that you werent 100% happy with how you played this.

I think its pretty important to cr this flop given the weak high card hands he can have like Q7, K5 etc etc that can counterfeit us.

Especially seeing you chose not to 3bet preflop.

I agree it sucks when he calls our cr and pops the turn but i think we are just too easy to play against and lose to much value with hands like this.

Anyway, you play good!!

Posted over 2 years ago

LuigiVampa

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Time Link to 00:31:56

What hand do you put your opponent right now ? Isn't it better to check/call and induce bluff from possible flush Draw or KQ ? This hand seems similiar to your river bet with 510 when you were crushed against 78 full house. I also have questions to that 510. You think you played good that hand ? Shouldnt you play there Check/Call ?

Posted over 2 years ago




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