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Splitting up my range 15/30


allstarrt

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Poker Stars $15/$30 Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 891402
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Pre Flop: (1.667 SB) Hero is BB with X X
UTG raises, 1 fold, BTN calls, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG calls, BTN calls

Flop: (12 SB) K Club 7 Heart 5 Spade (4 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, UTG folds, BTN folds

Turn: (7 BB) 2 Spade (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets

Just want to know what you think my range should be here? If you say this hand is butchered that is fine too. But also what should his range be? Are we going AK+ or what? What is the bottom of my capping range?

First hand no reads

Posted over 1 year ago

Juice

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Your range looks like KJs+ JJ+ to me. Id say his range varies depending on the player but id be surprised if it was any weaker than AK+. Id probably cap AA or better. Even though ranges are tight, I still think its somewhat player dependent.

Posted over 1 year ago

NinaWilliams

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looks to me like you've got 9s8s. bottom of your capping range should be 3 of the same card.

Posted over 1 year ago

Juice

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looks to me like you've got 9s8s.



thats what i meant to say

Posted over 1 year ago

DeathDonkey

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Agree with Juice for the most part. I'd cap aces against most people here I think. I don't really play any hand on the flop this way I think I raise most of the ones I continue with.

Posted over 1 year ago

DosXX

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I'd say AK minimum for him and that's probably a little light against you, depending on your image. I think you should probably have something like KQ w/ a flush draw minimum. Capping starts at 55.

Posted over 1 year ago

CarbonCopy

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I'd say AK minimum for him and that's probably a little light against you, depending on your image. I think you should probably have something like KQ w/ a flush draw minimum. Capping starts at 55.



Does having the FD matter? If we're not comfortable raising with KQ, why should turning a FD make us want to raise? It's not like the FD will suddenly make us an equity favorite if we're behind.

Posted over 1 year ago

KCStrom

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On this specific board I wouldn't hate a slow play with a hand like 77 or 55. Everything else should probably be fast played.

As for preflop, there's no excuse for failing to cap your strongest hands in a 4 way pot. Had the action been an UTG open folded around an SB 3bet, I'd strongly consider flatting your entire range(Against reasonable opposition). Given that you're w/o reads, I'd likely just play as straight forwardly as possible.

Posted over 1 year ago

DosXX

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Does having the FD matter? If we're not comfortable raising with KQ, why should turning a FD make us want to raise? It's not like the FD will suddenly make us an equity favorite if we're behind.



It just means that when we are behind we have a lot better equity. It's not that if we are behind suddenly we are now ahead, it just means when we are behind it is much closer than without the flush draw. We are just doing well enough with KQ and a flush draw to raise with our equity against his entire range but probably not without the flush draw. In this case I do think having a FD matters to our overall equity substantially.

Posted over 1 year ago

SIide

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... I think you should probably have something like KQ w/ a flush draw minimum...



Do you expect hero to have any Kx on the turn after just calling the flop? Would you just call the flop here with Kx?

Is anyone just calling the flop here with Kx? Does it matter if its KQ or KT?

Posted over 1 year ago

which

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86s,KJs+,77,55 for the cold call with no reads. (range on turn)

His range? AK+

Your capping range: set for sure, call with all else. Why not see the river and then raise if you improve.

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Posted over 1 year ago




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