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What's your play turn/river?

Full Tilt Poker $15/$30 Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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Pre Flop: (1.667 SB) Hero is SB with T 7
UTG calls, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, BB checks

Flop: (4 SB) Q 2 9 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks

Turn: (2 BB) 5 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks

River: (2 BB) Q (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks

What about sticking a bet in on the turn with the intention of folding to a raise and being ecstatic when the 8 or T folds?

What about sticking a bet in on the turn with the intention of folding to a raise and being ecstatic when the 8 or T folds?

This I don't agree with. The pot is so small and if you're just trying to bluff out 8 or T, then I don't think it's worth it.

On the other hand, if you bet intending to avoid getting bluffed out by a smaller flush + folding out some better flush, then I like more.

pot is small
your hand strength is iffy
your position is bad.
NH

do you call a bet at any point is a good question?

do you call a bet at any point is a good question?

Mickey this is my real question.

I think river is a no-brainer call, even against 2 opponents. Flop I just ditch if someone bets.

But the turn, I don't really know. Leaning fold but what about all checks and CO bets?

Flop is a check

Turn is a check: Nobody bet on the flop so there is no indication that anybody has a strong made hand that you can make pay by betting.

River is a check because you won't get called by worse hands in this small pot.

looking at this hand from all players perspectives.

flop..
hero checks: we know his hand
BB checks: no Q, no decent spade, probably no 9
UTG...same
CO...same, plus doesn't feel like taking a stab cause the pot is too small

turn:
hero,BB,UTG all check...no 9

CO, should he bluff here with any two?
Could some one be slowplaying the A,K or J,T of trump?
as hero BB or UTG, what spades should we be betting?

if someone bets, how big a trump does one need to call?

I think we can rule out someone having the A or K, as a flop bet should be placed.
so the line up of strength goes to J T 8 7 6 4 3...7 cards total.(I realize we know where the 7 is)
there are 8 cards in hands(2 have been folded) and 4 on the board.
what is the chance anyone holds a trump? 46 cards 7 trump (I am taking the AK out and leaving them in the undealt deck, they may come on river)
there is a 85% chance each card out is NOT a trump.
so each 2 card hand is 72% chance to NOT have a trump.
there is a 27% chance no one has a trump.
if we underweight the smaller trumps, 2 3 6 because they may not be in play and the also may not call a bet.
the CO should bluff IMO.

considering all this, I think we should SLOWPLAY our 7, with the idea of calling only the CO if he bets either the turn or the river. folding to anyone elses bet.
I dont think we should bet our 7 at any point, it loses when called.


I dont think the J or T should bet the turn from any position, slowplaying is better.
I do think CO should bet any two cards on the turn. because I dont think much can afford to call him.
this brings up the question, should UTG beat CO to the punch and bluff the turn first?

I did not do this perfect, but its close enough IMO.
you need to weigh, who will call with what. and someone who will not bet the A or K of trump on the flop, messes this all up...lol.
but I think correct is to slowplay and try and trap a bluffer, namely the CO, and I also think the CO should bluff.