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Variety Hour: DeathDonkey and OnTheRail15 (#2) - Midstakes LHE Homegame Part 2

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Variety Hour: DeathDonkey and OnTheRail15 (#2) - Midstakes LHE Homegame Part 2 by DeathDonkey, OnTheRail15

DeathDonkey and OnTheRail15 continue their analysis of the mid-stakes LHE homegame that they both took part in.

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  • Game: lhe
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 90 minutes long
  • Posted over 3 years ago

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PygmyHero

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Thee's another hand where Nina defends BB with J5s (?) vs Alex and XC, XF on KQ9; 9. I can't find it. I think this is a misstake. I may be reading too much into this, but my guess is that Nina is thinking Alex is spazzy so there is no reason to push a marginal draw. But I don't think Alex will re-bluff and his range is soo wide that he is just gonna b/f a lot of air aswell as Ax (as it turned out he had Q9).


That hand is right here for anyone who's interested.

Posted over 3 years ago

PygmyHero

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Holecard camera videos are my favorite. I still say there needs to be a whole series with it containing players of various skill levels (could be done on cheezeburger steaks for the beginner types). I learn a lot from being able to see other players thought processes. Make it happen IMO.


DoT, I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not, but I can think of at least 11 hours of video like this on the DC site (excluding this one and the first installment) and they range over a few different experience levels/stakes.

Let me know if you need some help finding the others.

Posted over 3 years ago

PygmyHero

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I don't need to c/r to bluff this board.


Nina, could you elaborate and explain your preferred way of bluffing this board?

Posted over 3 years ago

OnTheRail15

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Nina, could you elaborate and explain your preferred way of bluffing this board?



I would guess he's going to bluff rivers when Alex checks behind the turn. I think this is probably pretty effective since we're hoping Alex folds a high or an underpair when we c/r anyway.

It's important to realize that Nina probably is a bit more passive in general on this board texture so his value betting range when Alex checks back the turn here is wider than mine, for example.

Posted over 3 years ago

NinaWilliams

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I would guess he's going to bluff rivers when Alex checks behind the turn. I think this is probably pretty effective since we're hoping Alex folds a high or an underpair when we c/r anyway.

It's important to realize that Nina probably is a bit more passive in general on this board texture so his value betting range when Alex checks back the turn here is wider than mine, for example.



correct

Posted over 3 years ago

Alexashka

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I lost my credit card and so can't upgrade my membership to watch this. Fucking pissed. Besides that, I monkeyed around raising super loose preflop, mostly because I folded quite a bit early on and I found that people were playing very straight-forward, not wanting to look clownish 3betting marginal hands.

If I'm new to a table and nobody really knows me, if I don't get any cards early on, I'll start monkeying around later because people see you folding folding folding, they figure he's playing tight and proper.

And vice versa, if I was getting good cards and winning before SD, I'd tighten up because people would start to take shots/3bet lighter, thinking I'm playing loose and aggressive.


All that aside, it's a lot like KPR's reasoning for 3betting bottom pair, I just felt like it Smile It's not optimal to raise the hands I did UTG etc, but it makes for a more interesting video/game.

Posted over 3 years ago

sushiglutton

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correct



I realized that but I didn't like ur post and tilted some.

I'm personally barreling this board a lot beause I find people XC a lot of Tx, Jx and XR many stronger hands. Thus I believe I have a profitable second barrel with just about anything. That's what I meant by: "I think u do", I believe Alex will fire again at a high frequency.

Posted over 3 years ago

DonkeyOnTilt

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DoT, I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not, but I can think of at least 11 hours of video like this on the DC site (excluding this one and the first installment) and they range over a few different experience levels/stakes.

Let me know if you need some help finding the others.




I have watched them all. My favorites on the site. It may be just me but I do really learn a lot from them in addition to them being far and away the most entertaining.

Posted over 3 years ago

bellatrix

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Time Link to 00:36:09

We have 77 in capped flop on 468 flop, two spades and we have 7s. DeathDonkey says something like, we have 4.5 outs. Can you elaborate how you got to that?

I figured we have something like 6 outs (4 gutters and 2 sets) and even if you discount that (which is not really, since capping ranges don't hit that flop except maybe 88). Or are you discounting so much, because of a possible FD like ASpadeKSpade? I thought we are up against overpairs like 100% and we just play our odds correctly.

Having said that, BB 3betting and UTG capping is a concern of course and 5:1 getting 6 outs + implied odds is quite borderline. Tough spot, imo.

Posted about 3 years ago

DeathDonkey

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We have 77 in capped flop on 468 flop, two spades and we have 7s. DeathDonkey says something like, we have 4.5 outs. Can you elaborate how you got to that?

I figured we have something like 6 outs (4 gutters and 2 sets) and even if you discount that (which is not really, since capping ranges don't hit that flop except maybe 88). Or are you discounting so much, because of a possible FD like ASpadeKSpade? I thought we are up against overpairs like 100% and we just play our odds correctly.

Having said that, BB 3betting and UTG capping is a concern of course and 5:1 getting 6 outs + implied odds is quite borderline. Tough spot, imo.



Yeah I guess you are right I might have been a bit pessimistic there. I think in general people overestimate their outs a little bit though so I think the concept is reasonable (to discount the outs). But yeah with that preflop action I was on the pessimistic side.

Posted about 3 years ago

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Time Link to 00:33:03

in this hand where UTG Opens, OTB 3bet and you are in BB w/AK.

Is another reason NOT to cap the idea that you will gain info about UTG hand strength? UTG would rarely be weak enough to fold for 2 extra, and if he WAS, we figure to need a hand to win anyway?

the way it is now, the BB has the initiative in a hand where he is missing 2/3 time vs 2 opps who have position. This is offset somewhat by any flop bet forcing UTG to decide while not closing the action.

If I was going to put in 4 bets I would prefer 3 pre flop, and then maybe a donk on the flop to put UTG to a decision? If if gets capped pre, I can evaluate both the UTG AND OTB before I need to act in most spots.

would any of this change if it was AKs? I would not think so for me, but perhaps for y'all?

which

Posted about 3 years ago




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