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Squat Sessions: Episode Eight

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Squat Sessions: Episode Eight by Deepsquat

Deepsquat wraps up with a little mid/high stakes 2-tabling.

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Deepsquat is exploring non-standard strategies to stay competitive in tough midstakes LHE games.

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  • Stakes: High Stakes
  • 63 minutes long
  • Posted over 1 year ago

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Juice

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Time Link to 00:15:10

Assuming you are flatting 100% preflop, (which I think is your strategy?) And assuming you arnt raising Qx before the river (which I think I would always do with any Qx, probably preferring to raise the flop) Our river vb range probably looks something like:

all AJ
all QT/T8
all TT
all Qx
all JJ
all AT
some JT
some J9
probably bet all A9o as a bluff as its probably the only hand we get to the river with that doesnt have a pair now

Once we get x/rd on the river, we are getting 8:1 or need 11% equity. Things to keep in mind are if we fold more than 2/9 or 22% of the time, our opponent can gain an immediate profit by x/r his entire range. If we fold more than 1/9 or 11% of hands that can beat a bluff, we can be exploited if our opponent has more than the optimal amount of bluff to value hands ratio when he x/r's river.

As deepsquat mentions, most humans are not going to be bluffing nearly enough in this spot, however, I still think its really relevant to keep the above information in mind when deciding what parts of our range to fold to the river x/r in practice.

Now, if we get to the river using deepsquats flop and turn strategy of keeping all Qx in our range, and are bet folding hands equal to AQ and worse, we are going to be folding roughly 65% of hands that can beat bluffs and 75% of our entire range! Also as deepsquat mentioned, this seems like way to wild of an adjustment against any opponent and we should probably consider bet/folding hands like JJ/AT/JT and bet/calling our Qx's.


My strategy on the flop would be a little different. Like deepsquat mentioned in an earlier blind battle hand, I think we are going to get checked to on the turn very often on ths board texture after we call. If we leave all Qx in our calling range, that is going to make our overall range very strong after we call and we have already given away a lot of information by just calling, therefore, I would expect my opponent to often check the turn and we are going to lose value with Qx. Also, I believe that Qx just has enough flat out value to raise the flop and value bet every street.

Whats interesting, is that my river betting range when it goes bet/call, bet/call. check/bet looks like this

all AJ/T8/JJ/AT

im probably only betting A9 half the time now as a bluff because my value range is much smaller than Deepsquats, also note I probably dont have JT/J9/T9 anymore because im probably raising them on the flop since my value range is much larger than deepsquats and therefore, I need more bluffs. In this case, I can only bet fold my worse value hand (AT) half the time to not be exploited by a river x/r of 100%. Again, in practice its probably safe to fold all combos of AT and probably JJ as well vs non classy or spazy opponents.... interesting stuff.

Posted over 1 year ago

Juice

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Time Link to 00:19:34

I like your call down at this point, I think we are probably bet/3bing too often if we include this hand in that range. The weakest hand id probably bet/3b in this spot vs an unknown is AA which means im probably just calling down with KT as well. The main factor that is going to make me want to widen my bet/3b range (besides a read that my opponent never slowplays trips) is what my opponents capping strategy is going to look like. Most players are not going to cap bluff enough in this spot which gives me incentive to exploitatively widen my value 3b range knowing I can safely get away from the weaker part of my range when I am capped.

Posted over 1 year ago

Juice

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Time Link to 00:28:39

I think you nailed all the pros and cons of betting this hand or checking it back. I think since its such a close spot, that I would make the decision based on how large I thought my value range is at this point. If we flat 100% preflop and delay most our value range to the turn then we have such an abundance of value bets on this turn that I think we should definitely be bluffing this hand. There is also a ton of 7x we are going to have in our range if we decide to delay to the turn often. If we are 3 betting preflop and/or fast playing this flop with value hands then I think we should check this one back on the turn since we have a lot less value hands (a lot less 7x because we would semi bluff them on the flop) and probably better bluffs with less showdown value.


edit: op you basically mention this 2 seconds later.. lol sorry

Posted over 1 year ago

Juice

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Time Link to 00:31:44

As played Id also check this river just because the very bottom of our range is probably T7,T6s which is probably all we need to bluff along with our Kx value bets, as you said our opponent is probably going to be suspicious with most of what we are trying to bluff out so its important we dont have too many bluffs and might decide to bluff an exploitively small amount.

But saying that I think id just bet the turn with our straight draw equity expecting to get folds from Kx and possibly check back our J9 JT high gutshots to keep our turn barrel range from becoming to bluff oriented

Posted over 1 year ago

Deepsquat

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Assuming you are flatting 100% preflop, (which I think is your strategy?) And assuming you arnt raising Qx before the river (which I think I would always do with any Qx, probably preferring to raise the flop) Our river vb range probably looks something like:

all AJ
all QT/T8
all TT
all Qx
all JJ
all AT
some JT
some J9
probably bet all A9o as a bluff as its probably the only hand we get to the river with that doesnt have a pair now

Once we get x/rd on the river, we are getting 8:1 or need 11% equity. Things to keep in mind are if we fold more than 2/9 or 22% of the time, our opponent can gain an immediate profit by x/r his entire range. If we fold more than 1/9 or 11% of hands that can beat a bluff, we can be exploited if our opponent has more than the optimal amount of bluff to value hands ratio when he x/r's river.

As deepsquat mentions, most humans are not going to be bluffing nearly enough in this spot, however, I still think its really relevant to keep the above information in mind when deciding what parts of our range to fold to the river x/r in practice.

Now, if we get to the river using deepsquats flop and turn strategy of keeping all Qx in our range, and are bet folding hands equal to AQ and worse, we are going to be folding roughly 65% of hands that can beat bluffs and 75% of our entire range! Also as deepsquat mentioned, this seems like way to wild of an adjustment against any opponent and we should probably consider bet/folding hands like JJ/AT/JT and bet/calling our Qx's.


My strategy on the flop would be a little different. Like deepsquat mentioned in an earlier blind battle hand, I think we are going to get checked to on the turn very often on ths board texture after we call. If we leave all Qx in our calling range, that is going to make our overall range very strong after we call and we have already given away a lot of information by just calling, therefore, I would expect my opponent to often check the turn and we are going to lose value with Qx. Also, I believe that Qx just has enough flat out value to raise the flop and value bet every street.

Whats interesting, is that my river betting range when it goes bet/call, bet/call. check/bet looks like this

all AJ/T8/JJ/AT

im probably only betting A9 half the time now as a bluff because my value range is much smaller than Deepsquats, also note I probably dont have JT/J9/T9 anymore because im probably raising them on the flop since my value range is much larger than deepsquats and therefore, I need more bluffs. In this case, I can only bet fold my worse value hand (AT) half the time to not be exploited by a river x/r of 100%. Again, in practice its probably safe to fold all combos of AT and probably JJ as well vs non classy or spazy opponents.... interesting stuff.




Sorry, just noticed your posts, sorry for the delay.

Fantastic post by the way, great analysis Smile

Posted over 1 year ago

Deepsquat

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As played Id also check this river just because the very bottom of our range is probably T7,T6s which is probably all we need to bluff along with our Kx value bets, as you said our opponent is probably going to be suspicious with most of what we are trying to bluff out so its important we dont have too many bluffs and might decide to bluff an exploitively small amount.

But saying that I think id just bet the turn with our straight draw equity expecting to get folds from Kx and possibly check back our J9 JT high gutshots to keep our turn barrel range from becoming to bluff oriented




Ya i can go either way on this hand. I think see how often he cr turn helps here. If he never delays value hands to the turn or cr flop with a big chunk of his value range i think we should bet here 100% and possibly consider betting some rivers too. I think if he c/c twice its almost always Ax and we also get some folds from some worse draws that may bluff lead riv.

All in all, betting is probably best and checking J9/JT is better imo

Always nice when it goes chk/chk and T high is good. Should be noted that he didnt bluff lead the absolute bottom of his range on the riv

Posted over 1 year ago

veganmav

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Can you please revert to the normal deck (non 4 color?)
I never wanna see a 4 colour deck again!

Posted over 1 year ago

Deepsquat

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Can you please revert to the normal deck (non 4 color?)
I never wanna see a 4 colour deck again!



Noted! I agree actually, never liked 4 colour decks. Thanks for watching Smile

Posted over 1 year ago

BigBadBabar

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Time Link to 00:37:19

on the right with QQ, you say raising this river is good because we can't get 3bet by lots of better hands such as Ax, because they fear the backdoor flush...are we really getting called by lots of worse hands though? the board texture works both ways i feel like. also if we raise the river and Ax crycalls how is that a victory for us?

what do you think of a flop raise? similar idea to raising trips on the paired flush boards and hoping opponents view it as BS...our call looks in a way stronger than a raise would, i feel like, and a raise can invite calldowns from worse, thinking we're bluffing, or even encourage the opponent to rebluff ("he can't have an ace, he didn't 3bet pf! ((or at least his combos are reduced))")

Posted about 1 year ago

BigBadBabar

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Time Link to 00:39:10

65hh on right, seems like an autobet on river; what am i missing?

agree re: targeting ax and kx

Posted about 1 year ago

BigBadBabar

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Time Link to 01:01:03

A8o can c/f riv? our turn c/c means we have a piece

Posted about 1 year ago

BigBadBabar

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Can you please revert to the normal deck (non 4 color?)
I never wanna see a 4 colour deck again!



lol what? 4color ftw. easier for viewers. plus squat said he's colorblind anyway, so doesn't matter to him imo

Posted about 1 year ago

BigBadBabar

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SIide

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Time Link to 00:50:48

This feels like an overly optimistic peel. Kings are about the only river we're happy with and every other card is either a crying call (5, T, 9?) or a fold. You say we're ahead of 7x & Jx, but isn't that only like 75,74 & J3-J6s? Most of which he'll probably barrel the river with?

Also, if your not bluffing this river with this hand, what are you bluffing it with, if anything?

Posted about 1 year ago




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