DeathDonkey and Mike L. continue to talk about playing high stakes live Limit Hold'em.
Mike L and DeathDonkey discuss higher stakes live LHE hands that Mike has played. They focus the discussion on exploiting common errors from brick and mortar opponents.
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What is the minimum hand Mike is calling a c/r with in this spot?
A straight I think? I know you are gonna say he should turn some stuff into bluffs but if he was capable of that I assume Mike would know it and then would consider either not betting, or calling with this hand.
A straight I think? I know you are gonna say he should turn some stuff into bluffs but if he was capable of that I assume Mike would know it and then would consider either not betting, or calling with this hand.
Right my point isn't that, although I guess he should, it's that he shouldn't c/r ever given the way mike plays the river here. The fact that it's the 4d does mean that he never loses though. If it were like the 9d c/r would be awful against mike.
Time Link to 00:11:42
You guys say that checking back 555 on the river here is really bad because you would always bet an ace. A couple questions about that
1) What hands can villain really expect to pay off a bet with a set of fives here given that the card smacks his range so well
2) If you're talking about checking top set here because tehre's not much value, why wouldn't you check Ax as well (the hands are basically the same) sometimes. In that case, he could actually be value cutting himself betting 555, and at the very least, I don't see many hands a bet would get value from (at least combo wise, I'm thinking lower sets and stuff, there shouldn't be much 2p stuff based on pre action)
Obviously this villain probably isn't thinking about a lot of this stuff but I'm not convinced 555 would be a value bet even between two good players if you consider the preflop action from both players etc.
Time Link to 00:11:56
My first instinct here when you said "it's hard to think like they think" was to go back and try to construct a "call 3 cold" range for your opponent. TBH I think a lot of middling pocket pairs are in there (like 77-TT) that for some reason clammed up on the flop (maybe because you 3 bet, or were planning to raise the turn but got scared when the king hit). Long story short I think he's going to call with these some percentage of the time and that there is non-zero value in a bet. I still like check/call the best, especially since my theory is based on someone not raising an over pair on the flop, which probably happens more in my 20 games than in 40 or 60.
Time Link to 00:36:36
If you think Villain's super strong on the flop when he 3!, then doesn't that make your flop cap a little less clear-cut?
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Just to make sure of the continuity of hand values
If the river was the 5
, would that change your c/c to a b/f, probably not, right?
But if the river was an A
you would most definitely b/f?
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when you say, he could have A
, 7x you mean on the turn, right? Because on the river the random 7 still beats us.
Just to make sure of the continuity of hand values
If the river was the 5, would that change your c/c to a b/f, probably not, right?
But if the river was an Ayou would most definitely b/f?
Yes, I think so, his Ax range is obviously enormous compared to his 5x range
when you say, he could have A, 7x you mean on the turn, right? Because on the river the random 7 still beats us.
Right, I meant on the turn, was pretty confusing listening to it again though
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