May 20, 2012
So... I gave up, no more 5c/Tc... :(
That is my graph after failure @ the 5c Tc level. I didn't understand what I was doing wrong. In frustration I moved up limits to where they respect my raises...
Yeah, it's only been a couple thousand hands... but still, I actually feel like I know wtf is going on.
I was able to figure it out. At 10nl... if anyone raises ever for any reason, fold. If anyone bets into you, fold. If anyone itches their palm and thinks about betting into you... fold. If your finger hovers over the f key on your keyboard.... FOLD.
For gods sake, no one at that limit has ANY CREATIVITY AT ALL. Pretty much, sit back, wait for the nuts, hopefully get in against a station and hope that he calls you down with 2nd pair. There is 0 brainpower @ 10nl, and my overthinking was hurting me.
5 Comments:
Apex93 posted on May 21, 2012 at 17:39 PM
Gotta say that there is a whole lot wrong in this post. You moving up for the reasons that you stated sounds like you have a whole lot of leaks you should fix before moving up and you are probably stretching your roll as well. If you really think that you are going to have a better winrate because the players are not super predictable take a step back and try to see really why what's going wrong. Maybe you bluff in spots where their range is just too strong, or maybe you bluff catch in spots where they are just not bluffing even thou "it's a good spot" to bluff. "and my overthinking was hurting me" Usually overthinking or "leveling" just means that you are actually not thinking about the right things.
ejplecht posted on May 21, 2012 at 21:34 PM
just about every sentence made me laugh ;-)
If you take DC seriously, this post will be great to look back at in a year or two. You got some work to do. GL on your journey!!!
Mr Riot posted on May 22, 2012 at 14:18 PM
GL Bro! Just don't forget to post the busto graph in the end! Sorry about my irony, but i've done that so many times, and yeah, it's awesome, the first 1 or 2k winning hands, before the pool adapts to you. If you can't adapt on the smaller stakes, what would you do on the bigger ones? If people don't respect your raises, raise for value only, etc... Too many crap said too many times.
Best of luck.
BaseMetal posted on May 22, 2012 at 16:14 PM
Well I think it is ok to move up and learn at a higher value but only if you can afford it. If you do start getting beaten at this level move back down or keep re-rolling. You should be able to learn and to beat the lower levels but there is no reason to have to go through them all if you can afforn not to. To move up "to where they respect my raises" is a bit of a cliche though :) and has it's application has been bad for many.
Also don't forget that there are many people playing the same style as at the lower stake and you can't seem to beat them so there is likely to be a gap in your knowledge somewhere.
Kuval posted on May 24, 2012 at 10:26 AM
The respect my raises line is a joke that I thought all poker players say... as if poker at lower limits is not real poker, and once you move up... that's when they play the real poker. Like 100-200nl @ the Rio... they really respect raises there. But 10nl @ stars, no one respects it.
Too many people respect my raises at the micros. That's the problem. I'm too heavily tilted by people letting me bluff too much.
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