hey
had to take some time off until i was ready to get back to this topic..
we have this skype group going on and actually act like you propose most of the time. i ask questions all of the time, i just "bring em out" without really bothering how foolish i look asking. it is not even a concern, i am asking to understand and so on. but i need a surrounding that accepts and acknowledges this.
the group refined itself with some new people joining and i continued the usual but my mind thought to recognize that i had lost my identity in this group. suddenly i was the fish, just because i was asking questions and others were like "sure", "it's like this.." just like they ate knowledge and i was stupid.
this was kinda annoying to me today it is different and mutual respect grew, so we were finally able to start working together and my worries are gone.
my problem was that the question came up who i am in this. i did not like the position i was put in.. or the position i felt like i had been put in.. might not even been real lol.
i remember that i kinda felt entitlet in the beginning, then lost big, lost confidence, but came back some months later. my level of arrogance shrinked significantly since the group started and i have a more healthy approach to the whole poker thing.
i dont see it as a big problem what my idea of myself was... okay i have been kinda arrogant, might have plateaued a bit, just felt entitlet or something. in the end it was just a concern of identity. still i was asking all the questions about pokertheory or handdiscussions that i ask today. nothing really changed.
when im reading through the forums i see the same phenomenon. people pleateuing others.. like grindcore is adored all of the time, dc's starlet. i see people believing that their knowledge is unquestionable (unlike what you pointed out with reaffirming, disproving e.g.) and others believing their words, because of the strength of that person's belief and the isolated logic that they found in their idea...
if i felt homy in here i dont think those things would have even appeared to me. why would somebody not doubt their own opinion, what are you looking for in here? it is like showing off rather than working.
i had those issues when i started here.. i felt more homy when i was unquestioned and i believed to be "somebody", while today i actually understood that im "just" somebody and the position im in is much healthier for my personal developement.. still it is some kind of identity, just a more benefitial one.
so unlike others saying you'd be able to blend out ego, which i doubt, my question remains how to live with it and how to define it, get along with it, and cope with other's claiming positions they do not belong in. in a family this would be super easy, in a small village.. well maybe, in the entire universe? come on. being able to put somebody in their position requires one to be in a position by himself, otherwise a degree of injustice would occurs. i am 100% positive with this statement and i am not a fan of shifting reality or nature just to believe not have to deal with things such as ego or identity.
see we have been talking about ego the entire thread without naming its undoubtful link to identity. i'd like to refer to SnappieVouz
"I am not going interfere in this discussion because I feel it's kind of useless, to be honoust.
There was a time where I was all serious with forums, defending my ego (forums is a place for egos talking to other egos and egos always want to be right) but I realised it's not important at all. It's not.
It's not important to be right, or to be wrong. It all just doesnt matter."
he interfered my thread with the words "get a life" and proved he still is out there. it is obvious to see that everything snappie changed was his point of view rather than his nature. he still profits/suffers from the same human nature, but has given up basically. has given up trying to find his place in this group of people.
i am really not sure that we can say that giving up actually means growing up in this case. i dont argue, i jsut dont know. thats the point where you, direstr88, are coming in. you had this pleateuing story about your chess-career and everything that has changed is your viewing angle, just what i described with my fading arrogance.
so in the end, what is left is a lesser degree of illusion in the idea of one's own identity. thats how i see it? and still identity wants to be fed with something.
we have been talking about ego and it looked like we are naming a monster, while ego just tries to defend the position we try to reach and once we found a stable identity this is gone? fin?
btw i try to be honest/real now.. i think the reason why i am asking all of this and have the highest interest in the human nature is that i have limited myself as far as my memories go. i dont take care of my needs nor put myself into positions i feel good in. i am in no position whatsoever. i just try to understand
well guess you need to name the devil for it no longer to be able to hide and scare you
story of my life
i have written about this in blogposts earlier on and basically just am writing this down to sort my thoughts.. hope there are no links missing and you understand where i come from to write all of this