March 17, 2011
The point of this blog post is to talk about 2NL villains / opponents how their play effects ours. Yesterday I wrote how when moving up I intend to adjust to 5NL players and their percieved range and how they play their range in certain spots. I have written about 2NL players extremely wide range in the past and how we often see them take unprofitable lines and how this makes 2NL a somewhat tricky limit to navigate through. I realized that tonight I took an unprofitable line as I was somewhat baffled by the villain's line (In hand 1). I also made a snap call in hindsight which might have been a coin flip or a way behind spot. I would love for other DC members to comments on my thought process in each hand and see if we can create a disucussion about the "special" types of opponents we encounter at 2NL.
Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 1236707
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Hero (BB): $2.36
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with J J
2 folds, SB raises to $0.08, Hero calls $0.06
Flop: ($0.16) 9 8 8(2 players)
SB bets $0.12, Hero calls $0.12
Turn: ($0.40) 3(2 players)
SB bets $0.26, Hero calls $0.26
River: ($0.92) 3(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
Final Pot: $0.92
SB shows 4 3 (a full house, Threes full of Eights)
Hero mucks J J
SB wins $0.88
So my thought process was this:
I should be 3 betting this for value. However due to the fact the villain raised to 4x I only flatted as this is percieved strength at 2NL, often villains will just limp in a blind vs blind situation. My 1st mistake in this hand. Due to his 4x - range I think we can put him on QQ+, AK, AQ, Aj, KQ and pocket pairs 55 to TT.
The villain leads into us with an almost PSB OTF. This again is a sign of massive strength at 2NL, usually it would be checked. At this point I am putting him on a range of 99, An Axcc FD and QQ+ So though with the range I am putting us on he has us crushed, also cannot dismissed random air, plus it is blind vs blind and it is 2NL so his range can be wide here. Thus my problem though I think I am beat I don't feel I can lay it down yet.
Now the villain bets a little over half pot. Which makes me think he perhaps an over pair and is worried about the flush. I think this is a bet sizing tell. I did consider raising here all in but just felt I am only ever getting called by better? Though I can get value from FD, this of course contradicts my read. I would expect an over pair to bet a little more to protect from the flush, so I am finding it hard now to assign a range. I think my hand might be good and perhaps I could bet the river if the flush completes and get some folds from some overs? Specifically Queens? My call in conclusion on the turn SUCKS!
Villain checks the river and I am like WTF is happening here? I should be check raising that card after he bet, but he checked? If I bet do I get folds from overs less then TTs? No probably not? So I can't rep a flush. Has the river completed the villain's flush? WTF? I should be able to value bet this river but I am confused by this hand so much? So I check.
Would we ever put the villain on the hand he had? Again the villain wanted to c/r the river no doubt and lost a lot of value by not doing so, as my line looks like a flush.
SO how can I make better reads in this hand?
Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1236723
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Hero (BTN): $2.00
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with J J
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, 1 fold, BB calls $0.06
Flop: ($0.17) K Q J(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.12, BB calls $0.12
Turn: ($0.41) 2(2 players)
BB bets $1.74 all in, Hero calls $1.74
River: ($3.89) 2(2 players - 1 is all in)
Final Pot: $3.89
BB shows A 5 (a pair of Deuces)
Hero shows J J (a full house, Jacks full of Deuces)
Hero wins $3.70
Raising 4x for vlaue, seems reasonable? At 2NL there is no real need to have BTN size raises I feel, might be wrong?
So I flop bottom set, now that flop should also hit the villain's calling range from the blind. So I bet for value and get called. So far so good?
In game I snapped this off like lighting. But lets evaluate this. The villain could have flopped a straight here. In that case we have 34% equity not great. The villain could have 2 pair then we have 80% equity to win the hand. This is good. However the villain could have Axcc for a straight and FD and then we still have 85% equity to win the hand. Point being what is the villain jamming here? Is it the nuts a straight more often than 2 pair, or a straight and flush draw. It is 2NL - I rarely see the villain jam like this on a straight draw on it's own.
So when the villain turns over his hand it is a fist pump right? But with regards to the previous hand and this - we can make this call for sure and quickly but can we snap it off as quick as humanly possible and feel good about it, considering ranges are so wide and wierdly played?
Would love to hear your thoughts, DC community on the 2 hands individually and as a whole! Please tell me what you think!
For those that care we are @62 BI's for 2NL