November 15, 2011

Poker on Resume?

Been going around asking for advice on this. What are everyone's opinions of putting poker on a resume for financial analyst/financial adviser jobs. I'd obviously make it sound bette than just saying I played poker and made money.

PS Will be writing a longish update sometime after thanksgiving. My life is much less exciting without playing poker for a living.

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zankaa posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:15 AM

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Personaly, id put it in my resume unless i needed a job badly for some reason. I dont want to work for anyone that doesnt have an open mind and at least took a look at my poker "presentation". I have no idea if it is a good idea to have this approach but anyway..

/ Pontus


TtheAntlers posted on November 15, 2011 at 13:22 PM

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I wouldn't. There are still loads of people in America who believe poker=slot machines and poker player=degenerate gambling addict, and it would take a lot more than a brief conversation with a player to change their mind.


Kurt1983 posted on November 15, 2011 at 15:40 PM

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I would rather prefer to say something about my poker career during the interview.
There are a lot of aspects which could influence their opinion on you if you put it in your resume:
e.g. ---> If they know the game and know a lot of guys can make money with it, they might think that your motivation (which is foundamental in finance, given the hours) is not high enough.
If they don't know it, then they will problably think: oh no, this guy is a gambler!
They might think that you are a good guy, with a good knowledge of risk management as well, if they know what poker really is. But I still think is better speak about it during the interview.
(just a little trick: during an interview, if they allow you, try to move the conversation on something you know better than them and they might be find interesting :)).
BTW, it depends if you want to work in markets or in corporate finance. In the second one poker experience and knowledge arent much important imho.
In the first one they do.
In my experience during an interview in law firm for a seat in capital markets department, I told them about the ev formula and they were amazed about the way I would evaluate risk, so they asked me why I knew it.
PS: think really well about working in finance. crazy hours and no real life.
Life has more worth than the salary you will get.
Hope it helps,
Marco


SnappieVouz posted on November 15, 2011 at 16:49 PM

Jessica-alba-ass

Important question: Did you ever played poker full time, where you did not go to the university and/or didn't have a job?

If you did go to the university, and or had a job, you can mention poker as a hobby, and you can mention what you take to the table that you have learned from this hobby during the interview. I would mention it, as a hobby.



If you did play poker full time, you need to mention it.


SnappieVouz posted on November 15, 2011 at 16:52 PM

Jessica-alba-ass

in the end, the resume if your advertisement and you still need to do the selling during the interview.

Be confident about your abilities. Answer questions with truth (i pick thru liars very quickly, nobody is perfect, people that recruit know this). Show volnurability, thats hot in 2012


DosXX posted on November 16, 2011 at 19:11 PM

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I agree with SnappieVouz, if you have a big gap in your resume where poker should fill, you don't have much of a choice. I would be prepared to have an additional handout providing a lot of details about your poker business with pretty graphs etc.


SnappieVouz posted on November 16, 2011 at 21:20 PM

Jessica-alba-ass

The fact that you coached people in poker helps you and you can probably name a few things yourself that did make you a more all round professional person because of poker.

Link the things you took out of poker that could be a needed skill for the job you are aplying for now.


Luke00016 posted on November 18, 2011 at 15:50 PM

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This is a messy question. It depends on the type of job for which you're applying. A lot will also depend on the reaction of the initial application reviewer in the company's HR department, which tends to not be the same person who actually interviews and makes hiring decisions.

I think if you played professionally and full time you would want to put it in to make sure there are no long gaps in your employment.

How you describe it is important, talk about being self-employed and managing your own business. Talk about money management skills and how poker is related to short and long term investment strategies, understanding ROI, risk of ruin, and identifying the most +EV decisions in a variety of situations.

It will really come down to how you sell your poker experience.


I3betyoutillyoudie posted on November 19, 2011 at 20:53 PM

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I kinda think it freaks people out way more than it doesn't...


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