December 03, 2012

strange hand... 150bb deep

Here is a hand I played today

MP is 13/13/7 over 314 hands - obv nittier side of TAG and more on the aggressive side NAG? Nitty AGgro? lol whatever)
BB is unknown 2 hands 100/0/100 (he 3bet twice of the two occasions, essentially meaningless for me though)

BTN: $25.00
Hero (SB): $53.64
BB: $20.00
UTG: $26.08
MP: $38.09
CO: $15.52

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 9 of hearts 8 of hearts
1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.65

Here my thinking is that he is going to be FoF on flop I can check raise a lot of boards (with semi bluffs as well as pure bluffs) and also make disguised hands like straights and flushes, I do not like that I am OOP, but since we are 150bb effective I do not mind seeing a flop here...

BB raises to $2.50, MP calls $1.75, Hero calls $1.75

I think this is a call for the fact it is $1 to call into a $5.75 pot, I still think MP is strong, I have no idea about BB as a player I assume he is weak as shorter stacked and raising too small given the action, though I'm sure he has what he thinks is a good hand. A big change in my thoughts is to play more fit or fold on the flop myself... I put BB on any broadways and larger pairs  TT+ and MP now with the exact opening range he had before given stack sizes and his position...


Flop: ($7.50) 8 of diamonds 9 of clubs A of hearts(3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $2.00, Hero calls $2, BB calls $2

Flop is very nice for my hand and feels awesome. I check expecting BB to bet almost everytime, with the intention of C/R large and playing for stacks. To my surprise BB checks and MP bets small. This bet is odd. I am confident I am ahead and while I contemplate raising I still think calling and hoping for some spew on the behalf of BB is the best play here. I call and BB surprises me again by neither folding nor raising but calling too. For me I think that BB's range changes hereto weaker Aces, random draws, including gutters and pairs TT+ under and Aces. MPs range is again the same as BB in my eyes - weaker Aces, gutshot draws (all his broadway hands), and pairs TT+. Confident I am ahead here given the strange action and betsizes.

Turn: ($13.50) 2 of spades(3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, BB calls $3.50

Blank falls and nothing changes from my perspective. I don't think A9 or A8 are in neither MP nor BB's range here very often, maybe less than 1/50th of the time as there are only 2 combos of A9spades and diamonds remaining . AA is still in both of their ranges but there are only 6 combos of those hands, and they have played their hands way way waaaaay too passively for me to think AA exists here. There are only one combo each of 88 and 99, so while I could donk here, but I feel I am over-repping my hand by doing so and any Ace hand will begin to think something is up. Given the pot is multiway players know that stack off ranges become stronger with more players. I am confused by the small bet here because if I had a good or bad hand I would be putting way more money in the pot (for bigger value when going for value and for more fold equity when bluffing). Still seems like a decent Ax hand which is unsure of what to do but would hate to have bet nothing only for a 7 to peel and then be confused when bet into.. anyway, I check, BB checks and MP bets small. We both call

River: ($24.00) 8 of clubs(3 players)
Hero bets $13.10, BB folds, MP raises to $30.09

near perfect river card falls (the 9 would have been better). I bet enough to cover BB for value, expecting him to never fold any Ax hand he has. He folds to my surprise, and to even more of my surprise MP ships.

Thoughts on his hand? What range do you put him on here? Does he ever ship with worse here?

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this is the same story over and over again, I will bet 50$ double or nothing he had AA.

that's the line I see.
Your mistakes were slow paying the flop, had you not slow played, you would have become aware of the sstrength of opponent with much less cost, I know easier said than done.


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