August 02, 2011

sometimes is it worth quitting when you lose to just standard stuff?

I had these three hands today in quick succession. I know the hands are standard, but should I have quit? - because i didnt play well after, infact I spewed 3 times. I think a 3BI stop loss is probably a great idea for me. Ivey has a one buyin stop loss according to Nikachu, so surely if its good enough for him its good enough for Acombfosho haha!

BTN: $101.23
Hero (SB): $104.00
BB: $126.76
UTG: $177.69
CO: $101.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with A of spades K of hearts
2 folds, BTN raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $9, 1 fold, BTN calls $6.50

Flop: ($19.00) 9 of diamonds 5 of diamonds A of clubs(2 players)
Hero bets $12.00, BTN calls $12

Turn: ($43.00) 3 of hearts(2 players)
Hero bets $21.00, BTN calls $21

River: ($85.00) Q of spades(2 players)
Hero bets $61.50, BTN calls $59.23 all in

Final Pot: $203.46
BTN shows A of diamonds Q of hearts
Hero shows A of spades K of hearts
BTN wins $200.46
(Rake: $3.00)


SB: $140.85
BB: $119.01
UTG: $50.58
Hero (MP): $100.00
CO: $98.50
BTN: $117.34

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with K of spades K of hearts
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, CO calls $3, 2 folds, BB raises to $12, Hero raises to $27, 1 fold, BB raises to $118.01, Hero calls $73 all in

Flop: ($203.50) J of spades 7 of spades 7 of diamonds(2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($203.50) A of diamonds(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($203.50) 3 of spades(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $203.50
BB shows A of clubs K of diamonds
Hero mucks K of spades K of hearts
BB wins $182.49
BB wins $18.01
(Rake: $3.00)


BB: $67.34
UTG: $190.13
MP: $101.00
CO: $176.95
Hero (BTN): $100.00
SB: $107.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with K of clubs A of diamonds
UTG raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $3, 1 fold, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9.50) 9 of diamonds K of diamonds A of hearts(3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $7.00, Hero calls $7, BB calls $7

Turn: ($30.50) 3 of hearts(3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $21.00, Hero calls $21, BB folds

River: ($72.50) 9 of spades(2 players)
UTG bets $68.00, Hero raises to $69, UTG calls $1

Final Pot: $210.50
UTG shows 3 of clubs 3 of diamonds
Hero shows K of clubs A of diamonds
UTG wins $207.50
(Rake: $3.00)

I like the way I played these, I just hate my results... obviously a stupid attitude but I just cant help feeling like its unfair! I will have my coach review this and see what he thinks about stop losses, what do u guys think about stop loss?

day off tomorrow in full i think. Read the dont listen to phil hellmuth book and finish sirlins playing to win, then go out and get drunk with my mate reeder for his bday!

Posted By Acombfosho at 11:55 PM

7 Comments

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7 Comments:

Mullanimal posted on August 03, 2011 at 01:30 AM

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Don't like hand 3. I'd raise that flop 3 way.


gsa703 posted on August 03, 2011 at 09:42 AM

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"...but I just cant help feeling like its unfair!"

I don't understand why you say this.

You're a better player than I am. Most of the time you will have both an equity and a skill edge on me. This means you will suffer more bad beats from me, than I will from you. In the long run, of course, you will have more chips.

It is unfair .. to the player with less skill. That's the whole point, right?


coolhand posted on August 03, 2011 at 12:19 PM

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im not so sure the hands are standard. the first hand i think could have been played more optimally. the river Q is a bad card for you. most likely villain imo is either folding the river with his TT,JJ.KK, wierd floats; or shipping the river with his monster/missed draws. With the Queen you lose half the combos of hands that would pay you off. Against an aggressive player with a strong range I prefer a c/f on the river without reads. Bluffcatching could be profitable if you have a read on him. By shoving only AJ pays you off and seldom at that in my opinion.

Hopefully I am not coming off as a jerk--my game is filled with leaks and flaws. Thought you may benefit from some thoughts.

The third hand is the most interesting for me. Unless the sb or bb was a fish I prefer a 3bet here. Any reads on the utg opener? Could he value bet anything worse on the river? What does he do w AQ? Do you think the river is a good or bad spot to bluff?

How many tables were you playing? How things are well for you--thanks for posting.


Acombfosho posted on August 03, 2011 at 14:56 PM

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@ Mullanimal - yeah I could raise flop here, I dont know what hand continues that I beat though which is part of the reason I didnt three bet preflop.
@ gsa703 - just saying that out of frustration. I know its not the right way to think about poker, hence why I said "obviously a stupid attitude" right before! It was just me moaning. Good things you point out there.
@coolhand - the first AK hand is just kind of another moan, i dont think c/f is ever good though. The last AK hand I flatted preflop because villain opens a very tight range UTG (8%) so 3betting is like turning AK into a bluff because he never is calling with worse. I play 4-5 tables


Ass Get to Jigglin posted on August 03, 2011 at 16:41 PM

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"Ivey has a one buyin stop loss according to Nikachu"

How would Nikachu know this?


Mullanimal posted on August 04, 2011 at 00:42 AM

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I think if you raise the flop you will get called once by any ace from original raiser as well as getting value from draws, given he will heavily discount AA, KK, and AK from your range, which leaves you looking like 99 and a lot of draws, maybe as weak as a backdoor heart draw. Also you don't allow the bb to draw cheaply. And its not going to be a good board for villain to barrel given no overcards to come and that you could raise the turn with a draw.


Acombfosho posted on August 04, 2011 at 00:47 AM

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@AG2J just heard him say it in Demasculineizing NLHE video
@Mullanimal I think you are right here, I guess I was too shy/weak on the flop and should have raised for value. I prefer winning a small pot than losing a big one and thats what would have happened


 

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